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"But the lethal fine print defines "firearm" as a 20-round-plus assault rifle." Huh? I would like to see that definition.
1 posted on 07/18/2004 9:37:47 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

My friend from Barbados is studying to be a citizen and was very insistent that an American has a right to carry a shotgun on his person at all times. I said go ahead and please do it one day and watch what happens *LOL*


2 posted on 07/18/2004 9:41:53 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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What are liberals so upset about? Its not exactly like licensed gun users go on a cold-blooded killing spree. The New York Times should look at the upside. Openly armed customers tell criminals they should look for an easier place to rob.
3 posted on 07/18/2004 9:42:12 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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4 posted on 07/18/2004 9:42:58 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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The liberal weenies at the NY Times are wetting their depends at the very thought of free citizens exercising their basic rights. NY State needs this law too. Then citizens would not live in fear of subway muggers, as they do now. A concealed carry law would be even better, though, for NY.


5 posted on 07/18/2004 9:44:16 PM PDT by Jack Black
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You'd think Virginia citizens concerned about weapons in public would be able to seek comfort in the primacy of local controls.

Yes, you might think that.

But it would be wrong, that's for sure!

6 posted on 07/18/2004 9:49:49 PM PDT by Ken H
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I just discovered that to get *any* gun license in NJ, you have to wait nearly 3 months. THREE MONTHS! Even if you just want a hunting rifle!

Could you imagine if you moved to a state and they said, "You have the right to free speech here, but you'll have to wait three months before you are allowed to actually say anything."

It's BS.

Good thing I'm planning on moving soon. Just trying to figure out where I can find the friendliest territory. Criteria: predominately republican, growing economy, low cost of living, good values, low taxes, and sensible laws. Any suggestions?


7 posted on 07/18/2004 9:50:12 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: neverdem

I didn't know the right to bare arms was in danger? Even in Britain they can bare their arms.


8 posted on 07/18/2004 9:51:58 PM PDT by Melas
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RKBA ping.

(must be nice)


9 posted on 07/18/2004 9:52:10 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 (CQB is a very polite way of describing a gunfight at knifefighting range.......)
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Of course I have a right to bare these arms:

"I'm too sexy for my sleeves, too sexy..."

11 posted on 07/18/2004 9:53:57 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Terrorist attacks ain't caused by the use of strength. They're invited by the perception of weakness)
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The Right to Bare Arms

What's next? The right to bare legs, bare midriffs, bare bottoms?

The Puritans would be incensed!

I guess we had it coming, when they started allowing bare wrists and ankles.
Heaven help us!

14 posted on 07/18/2004 10:00:00 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: neverdem

The "lethal fine print" happens to be the statutory language. But when has what the law says been important to the Slimes?

If the Slimes cared as much about the Second Amendment as they claim they care about the First, we wouldn't have these lame editorials. If the people of Virginia want their citizens to be able to carry guns wherever they want, it's none of the Slimes' business. It's more of a travesty that the people of New York City have to run through every conceivable hoop even to own a handgun in their house, let alone carry it on the street.


15 posted on 07/18/2004 10:01:22 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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In Utah, university administrators worried over students' wearing guns in dormitories were overruled by the legislature, which defended gun rights — even to the point of packing in class.

I never carried to class, but I did have a .270, a Winchester .44Mag rifle, a Ruger .44 pistol, and a 12 guage shotgun in my dorm room while I was in college back in the late 70's/early 80's. Lots of us had guns of one sort or another from .22 rifles up to .300 WinMags ... oddly enough, none of these evil weapons (or their owners) decided to go on a killin' spree ...

18 posted on 07/18/2004 10:05:50 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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Alexandria, for instance, has barred open carrying. But that was before the very latest Catch-22 in Virginia law: effective this month, state law bars any locality from enacting gun regulations. Gotcha.

Catch-22? I do not think that word means what you think it means...

19 posted on 07/18/2004 10:08:54 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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30 posted on 07/18/2004 10:26:02 PM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: neverdem
You'd think Virginia citizens concerned about weapons in public would be able to seek comfort in the primacy of local controls. Alexandria, for instance, has barred open carrying. But that was before the very latest Catch-22 in Virginia law: effective this month, state law bars any locality from enacting gun regulations. Gotcha.

Hell no! You don't want to have different standards of firearm handling from city to city. It needs to be consistent within the boundary of the state lines. Would these twits like to have local "primacy" on the subject of making a right turn on a red light? Ok in one city. Misdemeanor in another. Felony in another. Yippee! What fun!

33 posted on 07/18/2004 10:27:45 PM PDT by Myrddin
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It's in the eminations of the penumbra.


38 posted on 07/18/2004 10:33:06 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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From today's news (AKA: as I see it)

Man attacks girlfriend with alligator

A Florida man who hit his girlfriend with a 3-foot long alligator and threw beer bottles at her during an argument, has been charged with battery and possession of an alligator. 

The alligator, which David Havenner, 41, had been keeping in his bathtub, was turned over to Florida wildlife officials. 

Nancy Monico, 39, told investigators that Havenner beat her with his fists, then grabbed the alligator and swung it at her as she tried to escape, sheriff's spokesman Gary Davidson said.

My comments:

This story makes me wonder. Alligators and beer bottles can be lethal weapons, so...

Are people in legal possession of alligators required to attend alligator safety classes and have a police background check before they can get one?

Is there an NAA (National Alligator Association)?

I read another account of this story that said both the man and woman had been drinking, maybe a bit too much. It didn't report if the alligator was "loaded" at the time.

Will Florida now pass an assault alligator law?

If the women had been struck by one of the bottles, critically injured or died, could her family have sued the bottle manufacturers for product flaws?

Do people in Florida have bumper stickers that read "When alligators are outlawed, only outlaws will have alligators"?

Is a case of bottled beer an assault weapon?

Is Florida in competition for California's "weird news" title?

40 posted on 07/18/2004 10:36:07 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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The Right to Bare Arms

This is silly. Not everyone should wear tank tops.

41 posted on 07/18/2004 10:37:54 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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But that was before the very latest Catch-22 in Virginia law: effective this month, state law bars any locality from enacting gun regulations. Gotcha.

That's not a gotcha, it's called a state preemption law and most states which respect the RKBA have one on their books. It simply prevents local politicians in liberal-leftist areas of the state, like Alexandria for example, passing gun laws which are more strict than state gun law.

The imbecilic editorialist obviously thinks the elitist-leftists in the Washington suburbs should be able to restrict the rights of all VA citizens who happen to live in or pass through their liberal enclave. Judging by the recent actions of the VA legislators and governor, the majority of VA's citizens disagree. Doncha just love to hear the libs whine and moan when unConstitutional gun laws are repealed?

52 posted on 07/18/2004 10:49:48 PM PDT by epow (An embryo isn't potential human life, it's human life with potential.)
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I once read that citizens who carry legally, are less likely to use a firearm illegally than LEO are.


64 posted on 07/18/2004 11:45:52 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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