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Posted on 07/18/2004 6:57:48 PM PDT by JustPiper
Picture credit: TheCabal
"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"
CIA: 9/11 Plotters Transited Iran, Govt Tie Unseen
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About eight of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers passed through Iran before attacking the United States, but there is no sign of official Iranian complicity, the CIA (news - web sites)'s acting director said on Sunday.
We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm
Meet It!
Greet It!
Defeat It!
Thanks, I remeber back when they had the power outage in NYC that the company responsible was Midwest ISO.
I'm not chicken, I'm cynical. I'm not sure that any processing done for NSA would lead to an investigation of anything other than the person who's computer processed it.
"Richard Jewell" mentality. Shoot the messenger, and all that.
:)
This one, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1173907/posts?page=3601#3601
I'm very interested in it. Can you give more background on it?
I really don't lend to much thought to Aljeernan. I think she is outragous for attention.
I'm sure there are quite a few people who'd like more info on Sean's claims that we were close to "losing a city" this week.
On the other hand, I'm extremely skeptical about this as it strikes me as nothing more than a way to sell $99/yr subscriptions to his "newsletter".
All IMHO. If this were "real", Sean should post it freely so that people could know what the threat really is all about. Keeping it confidential ("for subscribing members only!!") smacks of a kind of marketing that doesn't sit particularly well.
MD5 Checksum for the original rar file:
d6673b0bac8ce6287de25008929bdf39 O2usa.rar
contents:
4f5a550c0d84ec0b4056618a066de306 Autorun.inf
959c122696493a5be78565dc39098552 divx5.exe
affdec71a8f73d9efd161fd823c5c43b to_amirika_iraq2.avi
Now I get to rip the AVI apart piece by piece. I'm looking for anything embedded in the frames.
I think the world of SP2BF, and I'll spend whatever time it takes to reproduce what she found. If she wasn't out of pocket, it'd be easier. I really need to know what software and what copy she was using.
I should probably add to that last post that I have no problem whatsoever with Sean selling access to NEIN. (Before someone flames me for my last comment).
HOWEVER..if there were TRULY something so "major" as "losing a city", I'd think that would warrant full disclosure outside of the subscriber base. Basically, we're talking about National Security here, and that trumps all else, IMHO.
The fact this info is only available with a subscription sure leads one to believe that the "headline" is nothing more than something to increase subscribers.
I say this with all due respect to Sean, incidentally, and reiterate that I have no objection to selling access to the NEIN info - but there are just some things that most would disclose if it were really something THIS urgent - after all, it'd be the story of the century if true.
I agree with you. I also thought "Richard Jewell" after hearing that LEO were investigating that cop that brought attention to the NYC subway bomb right before it went off. Let's think of a new verb:
Defense Lawyer: "This is merely another misguided attempt by the government to "Jewellize" my client."
Well, that is my lame attempt; I know you can do better!
Has anyone ever investigated this website? It is unknown to me, do folks here believe in this place? Who is Bruce Kennedy?
How about substituting "Smith" for "Patrick"? I have a large spot in my heart for Patrick Henry.
Besides, "Smith" fits "sheeple".
HERE IS CALS POST 3595-Maybe this will tell you
Ok, we have heard back from Doug!
Now since I'm one of the people that said I didn't see a code on the slide, I AM looking at this video through Video2Photo which is FREEWARE.
The software they used is real and professional enough to be used in court.
So if these codes are here, then they still match the ones listed in clipgate.com/tx/index1.html
From Doug:
I just now had the time to check you alerting me to the discussion on FR TM
thread, which apparently had grown quite a bit since your original
notification. I also followed the links to the external sites, and see that
there are a lot of people who claim to have all of the answers about this
video. Perhaps I can help clear up any misconceptions about the video and
other related issues. Please read the following very carefully, and feel
free to quote me publicly, but only without editing my response or
excerpting anything as I wish nothing to be taken out of context.
1. As a FR member myself with no time to post and only skim headlines there
at best, I had NO idea there was such a controversy over the video. Quite
simply, both Laura and Jill found the same video, except that Jill was able
to save it to her hard drive while Laura was not at that time. Jill
graciously provided the video to Laura in its complete and unedited version.
2. While going through the video, Laura stopped it at a certain point to
grab a frame for illustration purposes for our site. The point where it was
stopped was somewhat arbitrary, but based in part on a subtle difference in
the "flow" of the video. It was at this point that the video was advanced
slowly to a frame where the alpha-numeric code was found on a single frame.
3. Following that find, Laura contacted me by cell; at that time, I was with
another investigative analyst and we went to his office to view the video
that was now present on our server. We found the frame and code (as well as
other code stings in additional frames later). I notified two of my federal
LE contacts in DC by telephone, and subsequently provided the video and
frame capture to one federal agent at his request.
4. Upon returning to my office, we had a conference call between analysts.
It was at that point we opted to post the image (code included) on our site
for public viewing. Based on a series of previous events NOT PUBLICLY KNOWN
or stated anywhere, including in our fee-based newsletter, we did so with
the belief that it could have the potential to alert those who might have
placed the code as an operational command that their plans were detected,
thereby giving LE time to act or react. It was purely a judgment call on our
part.
5. A careful analysis using video analysis software suitable for court
presentation and authentication, I found several additional frames
containing different alpha-numeric strings, an endeavor that took me most of
the night. I notified my federal contact of the exact locations of each
frame and forwarded the results to him in a second email the next morning.
6. Approximately 36 hours later, I received an informal request to remove
the frame from the front page of our website as we cooperate with legitimate
law enforcement requests. One might ask why it remains on other sites - I
cannot answer that question or speak for other site operators. During the
contact with LE, however, he stated that this is not an atypical method of
communication by computer-savvy "terrorists" and has been in use long before
the events of 9/11.
7. The implication (and in some aspects, outright accusations) that Jill
from her own site, Laura, myself, or anyone else connected with the
Northeast Intelligence Network either fell for an elaborate hoax or
perpetuated the same is unfortunate - and totally incorrect. If that were
the case, apparently federal LE officials are complicit in the hoax as well,
which is ludicrous.
8. As an aside, I find it interesting that some members of FR, an
organization which promotes capitalism and free enterprise, have a problem
with our organization offering a fee-based newsletter. The newsletter
contains information relating to in-depth investigation of terrorist issues
dropped by the media or completely unreported. All critical information is
NOT shielded from the public and is always reported on our site for
everyone's use. Our newsletter provides in-depth reporting, in many cases
where I or other qualified investigators actually travel to locations,
conduct in-person interviews, and THAT takes time and money. It does not
contain regurgitated Internet information, People want information for free?
Simple answer - don't subscribe.
I hope that clears up most of the questions raised.
My best,
Doug Hagmann
Director, Northeast Intelligence Network
What you see is what you get. There is no further information available that I can get. I copied all that was involved with the old posts. I know authorities saw the posts in May of 2003, also.
Although hard to decipher because of the translation, many eyes looking at them here may prove fruitful. The strength of TM is in the analyses by all posters.
Why do all these links go back to one place, derive from I mean? This is so peculiar!
So Casey posted that in May 2003? Or did she translate it from somewhere else and it the Arabic was from somewhere in May 2003?
I have to agree there. It's one thing to subscribe to information that is hard to come by and that involves a lot of work and research. I wouldn't expect to get it for free. But to have to pay to find out if it's my city that's going to be wiped out this week doesn't seem proper. Seems like something you'd want to let your fellow man know about anyway.
I am concerned about the nuke warning, when did that go up on HQ alert?
Thanks. you've saved me a bunch of time. I may strip the file anyway, just for fun.
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