Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread FOURTEEN

Yahoo News ^ | 07-18-04 | Randall Mikkelsen

[JustPiper]

Picture credit: TheCabal

"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

LINK TO THREAD THIRTEEN

CIA: 9/11 Plotters Transited Iran, Govt Tie Unseen
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About eight of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers passed through Iran before attacking the United States, but there is no sign of official Iranian complicity, the CIA (news - web sites)'s acting director said on Sunday.

We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm

Meet It!
Greet It!
Defeat It!

[null and void]

The møøselimbs are not above using porn sites for 'secure' communications.

After all, it reinforces their view of the west as being hopelessly decadent, and it gives them a free pass to look at porn...

[null and void]

I didn't think that they would take a dhow against a carrier, looks like I was wrong.

I didn't think we'd let a dhow touch a carrier. I was wrong.

Good thing it wasn't packed to the gunnels with HE...

[appalachian_dweller]

IIRC, it was EOM. While EOM's credibility is next to zero, I'll still take all threats seriously. Only prudent.

[appalachian_dweller]

>> cornered animal <<

Something for the terrorists to remember:

A cornered animal is much more dangerous than a free one. When your only choice is to fight, you will fight that much harder.

I believe is was a Chinese general that said to always leave your enemy a way out.

[texasbluebell]

Watch out, everybody!

Web users tricked over bin Laden 'death' ("death photos" of Bin Laden really just a trojan attack)

Hackers are using what they claim are photographs showing terrorist chief Osama bin Laden dead to try to infect computers worldwide, it emerged yesterday.

Thousands of rogue messages have been posted on internet chat-rooms in the past few days suggesting journalists have discovered the al-Qaeda leader hanged.

The messages urge users to visit a website to view the photographs of bin Laden which they claim have been withheld by US authorities while they confirm the identity of the body.

Attempts to download the bogus picture fail, but, unknown to users, their computer may have been infected with a piece of malicious software in the process.

[nw_arizona_granny]

There are area's that the Mexican border comes only a mile or two from a paved road.

A healthy man thinks nothing of walking 20 to 40 miles across the desert.

Our place in Wellton was 40 miles across a mountain range or you could follow the old wagon road to go to Mexico.

In my time there, the Mexican men who wanted to work on the farms would walk the 40 miles with a gallon of Nescafe (instant coffee) in a gallon milk jug. The old timers only needed one gallon.

The desert wise folks all have a smooth pebble or two in their pockets, not a red one (arsenic)if you put the pebble in the mouth, it will make your mouth water and you won't get as thirsty.

There is no secret to crossing the border, you simply start walking. anyone can do it, there are enough Creosote bushes, even there to crawl under and disappear from the Border Patrols sight.

On a full moon night even I could have made the trip.

A border crosser will see the Border Patrol and airplanes, and curl up around a bush, before they will see one or two men walking across the desert.

The group of dead men that I saw, were dressed in their best clothes, black pants and white shirts.

Many came in Levi's and Western Shirts.

When you are out in the desert and find neatly folded clothes in a pile, then you look for a dead body.

When they start to have a heat stroke, the first thing they
throw away is the wallet, further on, it is the shoes, until they are naked and dead.

When I lived in Wellton, we were watching for tons of drugs and catching them.

Today, it is childs play to import terrorists, even with a 40 pound backpack bomb on the back.

Look at the photos of our Military, they are packing more than 40 pounds and firing a gun.

The point of my opinion, is that the terrorist does not even need help, he simply walks across and may even go to a labor camp and hide there, with the other farm workers.

I once looked up to see a Mexican man standing there, we were camped in the desert, prospecting, hadn't seen a living person for days, but there he was.

He had crossed about 200 miles back, was headed to the East Coast, and was simply following the train tracks to get there.

The man traded us a box of bullets, he had found near the tracks and we fed him and sent him on his way.

You have to admire a man, who would walk the whole distance to work, but then 30 years ago, they were different than you would find today.

Now, I would not live anywhere near any border.

[Calpernia]

I see too much arrogance on their part to even hope that they would realize that.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Do you recall when the small boats got to the oil terminal in Iraq, I remember seeing the photos of the shacks out over the water, where the ships were filled?

Didn't they also hit one of our ships then?

I know that I was surprised that they had allowed the small boats to get so close.

Didn't we learn anything at Yemen?

[appalachian_dweller]

>> too much arrogance <<

That will be their downfall. Isn't pride one of the seven deadly sins?

[JustPiper]

no idea wife, seems to be a great debate also at TS

[null and void]

Didn't we learn anything at Yemen?

Ummmmm, no?

[Calpernia]

bump!

[knak]

bump to that, I was just fixin' to post that

[JustPiper]

thanks for the FYI NWC!

[JustPiper]

There were many scathing posts there and they seem like an intelligent group of people. They asked many legitimate questions IMO

[Calpernia]

Of interest, http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/specials/interactives/911documents/index.html

9/11 Commission Final Report

[JustPiper]

I guess I won't be joining up over there any time soon...LOL

Maybe you should

[JustPiper]

From the time you were born kiddo ~Hugs

[JustPiper]

ping

[Labyrinthos]

I have no problem with them trying to make money, I do have a problem with the "most important" information being put in the pay section. If it is really vital to saving lives, it is a shame you have to pay to see it. I do think that certain things, like videos and special analysis, should be for paying customers. The found nuke story, if true, should be available to the public IMO.

I don't have a problem with NEIN trying to make money either. I do have a problem with the methods NEIN uses to make the money.

First, the use of "homelandsecurityus" in the web address may suggest to the unwary that the website is associated with the United States Department of Homeland Security, which of course, it is not; and a person using a web search engine to find the real website for the US Dept. of Homeland Security could get steered to NEIN's site. I have no idea whether the potential for confusion is intentional or not, but from my standpoint, the intent is irrelevant. I do note, however, that up until about December of last year, NEIN used its own name in its web address.

Second, NEIN has a tendency to report as absolute fact claims that are based upon unverifiable, top secret information allegedly obtained from top secret sources deep within the various government intelligence agencies. A perfect example is when NEIN reported last January -- as an absolute fact -- that US Special Ops had "bagged and tagged" OBL in Pakistan, and then personally attacked anyone here who dared to question the accuracy of the report. Although I haven't read NEIN's pay to view article about the nukes allegedly found in NYC, I suspect that the report is also based upon top secret information from super secret sources deep within the US Intel community (otherwise the entire world would know about it), which means that NEIN is once again trading upon information that we can neither verify nor debunk. Everyone is obviously free to draw their own conclusions, but I'm not about to accept as true an unverifiable intel report from a relatively obscure website just because the owners of the website charge a hundred bucks a year for the privilege of reading the super-secret intelligence information.

Third, I can't for life of me figure out why the people at NEIN always seem to have exclusive access to top secret information. Although I realize that the US Gov't sometimes leaks secret stuff on purpose, I can't imagine why it would do so through a relatively obscure website that charges a hefty annual fee for access to the information, and then makes its subscribers "sign" a confidentiality agreement in which they agree not to disclose the information to anyone else. The whole idea of a deliberate leak is to get the word out, and that is not going to happen if the intel is leaked through a relatively unknown website that charges a fee to read the information and then prohibits the people who have paid for the information from passing it on to others, which brings me to my final point.

Fourth, if sources within US Intel aren't deliberately leaking the so-called top secret info to NEIN, then that means either (a) the info is at least partially BS at worst or the product of a creative imagination at best; or (b) people within the US Intel community are illegally disclosing classified, top secret information to the owners of a commercial website in violation of the law. If the info is BS or creative writing, in whole or in part, then NEIN shouldn't be selling it as fact. If the info is accurate, but top secret, then NEIN is charging for information that was not only illegally disclosed, but obtained by US Intel in the first place with taxpayer money. Stated another way, if the top secret intel information that NEIN disseminates is, in fact, true and accurate, then NEIN is basically charging its taxpaying subscribers to read illegally disclosed classified information that was obtained in the first place with taxpayer money.

This is my opinion and my opinion only. Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions or to give as much or as little weight to NEIN or any other source as they deem appropriate. Like everything else you buy on the internet, caveat emptor.