Young Right Tries to Define Post-Buckley Future

NY Times ^ | July 17, 2004 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

[Coleus]

Buckley is no conservative.

Putting the Pied Piper in Perspective
by Jane H. Ingraham

William F. Buckley, Jr.: Pied Piper for the Establishment by McManus

Conservatism used to equal an undeniable love for God, family, and our Republic. That was before the "neo" conservatives came, before William F. Buckley, Jr. was chosen by the liberal establishment as the chief spokesman for conservatives. From the 1960s to today, conservative Americans have been led astray by Buckley and other false conservatives who want to interject the U.S. government into almost every aspect of our lives.

John F. McManus, president of The John Birch Society, presents a critical examination of Buckley's life and career, including Buckley's:

• promotion of liberal causes, from abortion, drugs, and pornography, to the Panama Canal giveaway;

• connections to the CFR, CIA and Yale's Skull & Bones Society;

• selection of ex-Communists, Trotskyites, and CIA veterans to staff National Review; and

• unwarranted attack on JBS founder Robert Welch to prove himself "acceptable" to the liberal establishment.

Don't let yourself be fooled! By understanding how and why the New York-Washington establishment embraced Buckley and his so-called conservatism, you can avoid the traps laid down by similar false conservatives. Get your copy today! (2002, 288pp, hb) Order Book Review

[NYCVirago]

The fratboy dandyism can be a little silly. Makes you wonder who his stylist is. It's the annoying smirk on his face that makes him hard to watch or take seriously. He seems to be getting the Tourette's a little more under control now though.

Yep. He was the orignial metrosexual. Did you know that the tote-bag-carrying donors of PBS are all peeved that they're giving little Tucker his own show? Seems that they're worried that PBS is becoming too conservative. How much of a laugh is that, that Tucker Carlson, who bashes Republicans ranging from President Bush to Mark Steyn, and who admitted having sexual fantasies about Hillary, is too conservative for these PBS fans!

[The Libertarian Dude]

I heard that interview too. I wish he hadn't been such a gentleman. But then, Terry Gross isn't exactly "all woman", if you get my drift...

[The Libertarian Dude]

You probably won't agree with this, but in my mind, the practice of prostitution doesn't even come close to causing the amount of damage caused by child pornography.

[The Libertarian Dude]

I'd rather have "radical individualism" than "radical equalitarianism" any day.

Much as the liberals' idea of making everyone the same, by making them individuals (yes, it's tortured logic), as much as that train of thought tortures me... I see from some on the right, a similar tack. Everytime I hear "long-haired hippie" from a radio host, I wonder if they're giving Ted Nugent a slide because he's a conservative. There's still plenty on the right who would love for every man to look like Ollie North and every woman like June Cleaver; they may not admit it in public, though, and with good reason. There's an element of "it's okay if you're your own person, as long as you match our appearance and beliefs" in the right.

Of course, the Hillarites and their "it takes a village" mentality are far more insidious, but whenever someone on the other side says "no man is an island", my Collectivist Thought Alert goes off.

[The Libertarian Dude]

Should "sodomy", between monogamous, married heterosexual couples, be illegal? Wasn't it at one time?

Well, OTOH, weren't those laws made by tight-assed Old School Southern Democrats? Like the ones in Alabamastan, who said that women don't have a right to experience sexual orgasm? That style of anti-pleasure nutburger still exists, and we don't need their "help".

[The Libertarian Dude]

Buckley is a "so-called conservative"?

Damn. Next you'll be telling me that Gene Rodenberry was espousing communism in "Star Trek".

[Coleus]

Next you'll be telling me that Gene Rodenberry was espousing communism in "Star Trek". >>

Actually Gene Roddenberry and George Lucas delt heavily with the New Age.

[The Scourge of Yazid]

Agreed.

Though I do know a few guys who drink scotch-or, in some cases, whiskey-who are completely apolitical.

According to them, they adopted the habit out of respect for the great Western novelist Larry McMurty.

By the way, how come you never hear about there being any "old Turks?"

Curious.

[The Scourge of Yazid]

The sensous voice belies the horror that is her face.

I have a profile of her on amiannoying.com.

Check it out!

[The Scourge of Yazid]

Bircher Bill:

Yup, I'm still a' birchin! And I despises that other Bill! You get us confused, I'm liable ta birch ya!

[NutCrackerBoy]

There's an element of "it's okay if you're your own person, as long as you match our appearance and beliefs" in the right.

I don't quite see why such is a scathing indictment in your book, LD. People working hard, minding their own business. Is it really such a big deal if they bat an eye at a kid who walks into a diner sporting dreadlocks or whatever?

[The Libertarian Dude]

My point is, there is an element, both in the left and the right, to look at people who Aren't Like Them, with disdain. Odd, coming from the left, who claim to be tolerant, and from the right, who claim to be for the individual.

Just my observations here, NCB. I'm no trained expert. But I've seen the stares from rednecks, and realized I should have taken my earring out before I stepped into that bar.
Imagine, there are still people who cling to the outmoded idea that men who wear earrings are, well, odd...

I've also gotten it from liberals, because I have a Bush sticker on my car. "You really LIKE that SOB? And you're a libertarian?? You're REALLY dangerous!" Go figure.

[GeronL]

The writer seemed confused between conservatism and libertarianism

[GeronL]

The NY Times does not get permission to define conservatism.

period.

[KangarooJacqui]

"There is a serious possibility that the libertarian wing of the conservative movement goes off in its own direction, either breaking off or allying with the Democrats," he said.

'Scuse me while I lose my lunch... < /8>0

[uglybiker]

Somewhere there is a really pissed off old lady 'cuz somebody stole the upholstery off her couch.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Admittedly, even without the annals of Freud, there are a lot of peculiarities and bizarre detours to human sexuality.
I'm only familiar with the missionary position in consecrated monogamous heterosexual union so I shall pass on speculating on any of the psychological esoterica of anal eroticism. Not something that has ever popped up or interested me, alas. Never found anything wrong with normal vaginal intercourse. Very happy with that. Thank you.

[MeekOneGOP]

Though I do know a few guys who drink scotch-or, in some cases, whiskey-who are completely apolitical .....

[The Libertarian Dude]

"Sodomy" isn't just that one particular activity, H. And nobody said you had to be interested in anything more complex than "baby-makin'" sex. The point is, why have laws against things that DON'T fall into the latter category? Unless people are doing these things on park benches, these laws are unenforcable; yet, in the past, there were people so dead-set against them, they wasted perfectly good ink and paper and manpower writing laws against them.