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Gillerman: Dark day for the United Nations
Jerusalem Post ^ | 7-15-04

Posted on 07/16/2004 9:31:09 PM PDT by hope

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Gillerman: Dark day for the United Nations



With the US standing firmly behind Israel, and the Arab world united against it, the UN General Assembly debated the security fence's legitimacy Friday.

The debate was held under the banner, "Israel's illegal actions in East Jerusalem and the rest of the occupied Palestinian territories."

Amongst the speakers at Friday's debate are Palestinian envoy to the UN Nasser al-Kidwa, and Israel's Ambassador to the UN Dan Gillerman.

First to speak was Nasr al-Kidwa, the Palestinian UN observer, who informed the UN General Assembly that the Palestinians may seek a follow-up to the International Court of Justice advisory opinion a week ago that the Israeli fence violates international law. The opinion is not legally binding.

The 191-member world body is considering a draft resolution that would demand that Israel comply with the court.

Al-Kidwa said it isn't too early to start thinking about sanctions and action to end Israel's settlement activities because of Israel's "negative response" to last week's court decision. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon ordered construction to go ahead after the ruling.

Al-Kidwa said the Palestinians had chosen to move slowly because they hoped that "positive dynamics" will make Israel comply with the ruling, which called for the illegal barrier to be dismantled and for reparations for Palestinians harmed by its construction.

A vote on the Palestinian-backed draft resolution had been expected Friday but negotiations were taking place with the European Union, and Al-Kidwa said the vote would be held on Monday.

Israel's UN ambassador, Dan Gillerman, countered that the court's ruling was "a dark day for the International Court of Justice and a dark day for the United Nations" because the advisory opinion ignored Palestinian terrorist attacks against innocent Israelis that forced construction of the barrier.

"We are not impressed by lectures from Palestinian representatives about respect for the rule of law" when they are supporting "a brutal campaign of terrorism which violates every basic legal norm," he said.

"We call on them to comply with a binding legal obligation ... for the Palestinian side to abandon terror as a strategic choice."

Gillerman accused the United Nations of dealing with the security fence and its impact on the welfare of the Palestinians, but did not even deign to discuss the reason the fence was being built in the first place – defense against Palestinian terrorism. The UN is focusing on the value of land over the value of human life, Gillerman said. The fence can be moved and removed, Gillerman added, but the lives of the victims of terrorism cannot be returned.

Gillerman held up pictures of two victims of Palestinian terror as he made the comments.

"There is much talk here about rights; about the human rights of everyone – of Palestinians and Israelis. But there is no mention here on the most basic human right of all – the right not to be murdered," Gillerman said. The International Court of Justice in The Hague has been added to the long list of UN organizations recruited to support just one side. The ICJ has issued a completely one-sided ruling, one that puts on trial those responding to terror. The ICJ ignored the terrorism and the victims of terror – innocent Israelis. It ignored the Palestinians' duty to prevent terrorism, Gillerman said.

Nasser al-Kidwa said Israel should face the threat of sanctions.

"Israel will have to choose whether to declare itself - officially, morally and legally - an outlaw state, or to reconcile itself with a new reality," Kidwa told the assembly.

Gillerman fired back that other nations in the Middle East did not offer citizens the rights and legal protections of the Israeli courts, which ordered part of the wall to be re-routed.

"These regimes have the gall to speak of sanctions for a measure that saved lives," he said, referring to the West Bank security fence.

For them to "lecture anyone about the rule of law or accuse others of being outlaws, we have indeed reached a point where the inmates are running the asylum," Gillerman said.

Bolstered by a legal opinion from the International Court of Justice last week which stated that construction of a "wall" beyond Israel's pre-1967 borders is illegal, the Palestinians – via the League of Arab States – are asking the General Assembly to insist that the barrier be removed.

"The session promises to be a very stormy one and a very dramatic one," Gillerman told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday. He added that it was unclear whether a vote would be called today.

"Unfortunately, UN resolutions have a way of being against Israel," said Gillerman, who has spent the week meeting with ambassadors to muster support for the fence.

"We will point to the great hypocrisy in the fact that the court has actually put the people who are trying to prevent terror and the victims of terror in the dock, rather than the terrorists themselves," he said.

Foreign Minister Sylvan Shalom spoke with his French, Dutch and British counterparts over the past few days in an effort to get these nations to vote against the Palestinian resolution.

Muin Shreim, a counselor at the Permanent Observer Mission of Palestine to the UN, and a member of the Palestinian team to the ICJ, told the Jerusalem Post, "We would like the UN to adopt a resolution that will show that the international community at large supports the ruling of the ICJ."

"We are asking the United States and [other member states] to abide by their legal obligation as the court spelled it out, and not to recognize the illegal situation," said Shreim.

In keeping with the ICJ advisory opinion that Israel should make reparations to the Palestinians for harm caused by the fence, the resolution will ask the General Assembly to establish a register for recording such damages, including damages to Palestinian residents of east Jerusalem.

"We want to start the process in this regard," said Shreim.

Gillerman called the move "one of the most outrageous things."

"If they are examining the damage to property, will they also be willing to examine the irreparable, irreplaceable, and irreversible damage to human lives caused by terrorist acts such as suicide bombings?" asked Gillerman. He said that property can be replaced, while human lives cannot.

"I hope the General Assembly will not stoop in this kind of direction," he added.

Looking to support the Palestinians, the European nations began negotiating Wednesday evening to include compromising language acceptable to a majority of member states, according to a Western diplomatic source.

At issue was the resolution's harsh language. Various European nations, including Britain, Germany, Italy, and Denmark, asked that it be toned down as a condition for supporting the resolution. The Europeans were seeking a draft stating that the General Assembly merely "takes note" of the ICJ's non-binding opinion, and that the parties work toward implementing the Quartet-backed road map for peace, the source said.

"The EU wants a common position," the source noted.

At press time, a spokesman from the mission of the Netherlands, which currently holds the EU's rotating presidency, said that member states were "still conferring on what the EU position will be."

In New York and abroad, Israeli embassies, consulates, and UN missions, as well as Jewish organizations, initiated a massive diplomatic campaign last week aimed at garnering opposition to the resolution, said Israel's deputy permanent representative to the UN, Ambassador Arye Mekel.

At the US mission to the UN, Ambassador John Danforth was the only envoy this week to join Israel's representative in voicing his opposition to the resolution. "It's not helpful that it's one-sided," Danforth told reporters on Wednesday. "It's yet another resolution to be brought before the General Assembly. There were 22 such resolutions last year. They don't do any good," he said.

Danforth also questioned the Palestinians' motive in pressing for a resolution following a Security Council briefing by UN special Middle East envoy Terje Roed Larsen – during which he criticized the Palestinians' failure to reform their security services – and a resulting PA declaration effectively banning Larsen from the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"The issue to me is, how do we go forward on any kind of peace process? The peace process, to me, means balance. It means that neither side is going to like everything that it hears or every suggestion that's made," Danforth said. "So is it going to be a balanced approach, or is it simply going to be a rerun of the past, which is that we all make our political statements almost in propaganda fashion?"

Gillerman predicted that Friday's debate will be foster another resolution "that will be added to a sad and hypocritical list of anti-Israel resolutions; it does not carry with it real significance."

The Palestinians and the Arab countries have a long tradition of mustering anti-Israel support in the General Assembly, which has in the past approved hundreds of anti-Israel resolutions.

General Assembly resolutions, like the ICJ ruling, are non-binding. The General Assembly, however, can refer the matter to the Security Council, which can issue sanctions against Israel.

"We hope very much, and we have reason to believe, that the US will veto any anti-Israel resolution in the Security Council," Gillerman said.

He said that when the General Assembly agreed to ask the ICJ for an advisory opinion on the security fence, four permanent members of the council – the US, France, Britain, and Russia – all objected.

"One has to remember that, when the General Assembly in December decided to send this whole matter to the court, 82 countries either abstained or objected to it, including the whole European Union and over 30 [other] countries," said Gillerman. He noted that the US, Canada, Australia, and many European countries boycotted the ICJ hearing and submitted written briefs to the court challenging its jurisdiction in the matter.

The Palestinians, said Gillerman, are trying to dramatize a decision that should never have been given in the first place.

"It is just a pity that the United Nations is allowing the Palestinians to waste its time and resources on things which may derail the peace process, because it will divert attention from the real large overall pictures where Israel is disengaging from Gaza and the West Bank," he said.
"We feel that the ICJ – and the whole international justice system – has been taken for a ride and abused by the Palestinians, and it has really inadvertently become just another organ of the Untied Nations for Israel bashing... which is a shame, because we respect the ICJ," said Gillerman.

But Shreim said, "I think most of the international community respects the court as the highest judicial body of the United Nations, and they do not want to undermine or discredit the court. We are confident that we will pass the resolution by an overwhelming majority," said Shreim.

"Israel cannot be a country above the law. If they want others to respect the law, they should start by doing so themselves," he added.

Shreim said he is hopeful that Israel will decide on its own to comply with the ICJ ruling by halting construction and taking down portions of the fence that have been built in the territories. If not, he said, it is the role of the UN and its member states to do so.

With AP



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1 posted on 07/16/2004 9:31:10 PM PDT by hope
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To: hope

I am hoping that Sharon tells the UN the same thing that Cheney told Leahy. Works for me!!!!


2 posted on 07/16/2004 9:40:44 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: hope

this is all just the craziest stuff!

Shame be upon them.


3 posted on 07/16/2004 9:42:23 PM PDT by bitt
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To: hope
Those who curse Israel will themselves be cursed by God.

If the UN falls from this current spate of internal corruption and scandal, I truly fear what may rise in it's place. Most scholars of Biblical eschatology agree that the UN in it's present form will not be the vehicle of the antichrist. However, it's possible that the form of the UN could be dramatically altered in a very short period of time, starting with it's name. Instead of United Nations, "Global Community" perhaps?

4 posted on 07/16/2004 9:46:00 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1A: Any mission. Any conditions. Any foe. At any range.)
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To: ExSoldier

Getting to be that time, isn't it?


5 posted on 07/16/2004 9:50:03 PM PDT by hope ( Let no man deceive you!)
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To: hope

Its time for the U.S and Israel to get out of the U.N. Its a hopelessly compromised institution. It will never work for peace.


6 posted on 07/16/2004 9:51:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Kofi and FRiends Mysterious Journey

Out of Afrika to the Top of the UN Pile

An long but excellent New Yorker article by PHILIP GOUREVITCH, a profile of Kofi and his life and climb up the UN ladder of "leadership".

THE OPTIMIST -- Kofi Annan's U.N. has never been more important and more imperilled.


7 posted on 07/16/2004 9:52:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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The United Nations Wants to Take Your Gun!




8 posted on 07/16/2004 9:53:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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To: hope
"Al-Kidwa said the Palestinians had chosen to move slowly because they hoped that "positive dynamics" will make Israel comply with the ruling...

They are moving slowly only to avoid accute lead poisoning.

9 posted on 07/16/2004 10:00:19 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: hope

10 posted on 07/16/2004 10:06:20 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: hope

America is going to learn the hard way that the United Nations works against it's interest.

Our politicians are nothing but fools.

Look at most of the laws passed lately, that are unconstitutional.

Most of them are done by reports that the delegations of the United Nations make up.

These reports become laws in America.

Congress is so easily lead by these reports that they base their opinions on to vote by.

Most of them go along with them this international world government.

Just look at the rulings of the Supreme Courts. Some of them say we should go by international law.

And Congress members changing our tax laws. Because the WTO says we have to.

THe WTO meets in secret and we don't know who sits on the board, but yet they are making all our trade laws.

Like I said, their Fools.


11 posted on 07/16/2004 10:07:51 PM PDT by take
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12 posted on 07/16/2004 10:18:47 PM PDT by McCloud-Strife
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To: hope

Why does anyone give credence to this biased, corrupt institution? Our leaders keep giving them respectability...why?

The UN and it's b-----d children are controlled by the 56 nation Arab Cartel. They are anti-US, anti-Israel and pro-terrorism.

Again...WHY? Why do the politicians consult them, have any dealings with them, give our hard earned tax dollars to them? I'm more outraged about that than I am about the Court's very predictable conclusion.


13 posted on 07/16/2004 10:31:27 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: hope
These regimes have the gall to speak of sanctions for a measure that saved lives

As if Islamics care of lives...especially none islamic....screw them all.

14 posted on 07/17/2004 12:40:18 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: hope

"We hope very much, and we have reason to believe, that the US will veto any anti-Israel resolution in the Security Council," Gillerman said

Damn straight we will.

We also need to pull out of this travesty - start up a world council of democratic nations: Canada, Japan, Australia, Britan, Poland, India, etc.

Screw the UN.


15 posted on 07/17/2004 12:42:43 AM PDT by Fenris6
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To: goldstategop
It will never work for peace...

In fact, it never did...

the infowarrior

16 posted on 07/17/2004 3:27:40 AM PDT by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: hope

The fraud called "United Nations" is a Leninist running dog. It's membership is New York City's greatest customer of prostitution.....courtesy of the American taxpayer. But then it takes one to know one, doesn't it.


17 posted on 07/17/2004 6:06:50 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: blackbart.223

Very amusing. Lead poisoning, indeed! We can only hope lots of it ends up blowing off their sniveling, cowardly heads.


18 posted on 07/17/2004 7:16:53 AM PDT by hershey
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To: hope

Maybe I'm missing something, but why on earth would England support the Palestinians? I understand the french, -- but England? What have they got to gain?


19 posted on 07/17/2004 8:32:37 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: hope
"Getting to be that time, isn't it?"

I think so.

20 posted on 07/17/2004 9:50:16 AM PDT by ExSoldier (M1A: Any mission. Any conditions. Any foe. At any range.)
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