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Is Cain Surging in Ga. Senate Race?
Personal Observations and Rumors | 7/16/04 | Valerius Poplicola

Posted on 07/16/2004 12:46:33 PM PDT by Valerius Poplicola

I know I'm a first time poster, but I've been reading Free Republic for some time. I want to offer some personal observations that will encourage the supporters of Herman Cain. I know there's no reason to believe what I say, but I think you'll find that what I say supports what others have been saying. My information is obtained from independent sources, not from other Free Republic posters.

First of all, the poll produced by Insider Advantage is not accurate. Insider Advantage does not have a good history when it comes to polls. They predicted in 2000 that Jeb Bush would lose, and that Georgia was a toss up State. Don't put much stock in that poll.

Isakson is not leading by 20+ points. The Isakson campaign knows this and are now openly talking about being in a run-off. I have heard that a recent Isakson internal poll shows Isakson at 44% and Cain at 36%. I'm not the first poster here to report this information.

I have it on good information that a large metro-Atlanta County (a Republican stronghold) is seeing a significant number of African-Americans vote in the Republican primary, during the early voting period occuring this week. It is rumored that this is also happening in a large metro-Atlanta County that is a Democrat stronghold. This is not good news for Isakson.

The Collins campaign is set to go hard after Isakson this weekend on TV in a last ditch effort to overcome Cain. This will further drop Isakson's support, and is not likely to harm Cain. Cain is too far ahead of Collins for Collins to overtake Cain.

I'm not the first to predict this, but Herman Cain and Johnny Isakson will be in a runoff. If Isakson is 46% or less, Cain will win the runoff, and become the next US Senator from Georgia.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: georgia; hermancain; johnnyisakson; maccollins
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1 posted on 07/16/2004 12:46:34 PM PDT by Valerius Poplicola
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To: Valerius Poplicola

Welcome onboard.


2 posted on 07/16/2004 12:47:30 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: Trueblackman

Thanks!


3 posted on 07/16/2004 12:49:43 PM PDT by Valerius Poplicola
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To: Valerius Poplicola

Is Cain a Democrat or a Republican?


4 posted on 07/16/2004 12:51:48 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Valerius Poplicola

We shall soon see -- go Cain!


5 posted on 07/16/2004 12:52:38 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: Valerius Poplicola
They predicted in 2000 that Jeb Bush would lose...

This was not a very prescient prediction, since Jeb Bush wasn't even up for re-election in 2000.

6 posted on 07/16/2004 12:53:01 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Valerius Poplicola

I don't agree. It will be Isakson and Collins in the runoff.


7 posted on 07/16/2004 12:53:18 PM PDT by SmithPatterson
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To: Valerius Poplicola

I think this would be a great development nationaly for the Republican party. Cain has a stellar record. See the clubforgrowth.com for more details.


8 posted on 07/16/2004 12:53:59 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/farenheight_911.htm)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Im sorry! You're correct. In 2002, Insider Advantage predicted that Jeb would lose, and that Barnes would win big. My apologies.


9 posted on 07/16/2004 12:58:19 PM PDT by Valerius Poplicola
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To: SmithPatterson

Your out of your mind if you think Collins will beat Cain.

It'll either be Isakson and Cain in the runoff (which would be very, very interesting), or Isakson will scrape out 50%+ a few.

I'd be happy with either really. Both good guys as far as I'm concerned.


10 posted on 07/16/2004 1:03:33 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: traviskicks

Cain doesn't have a record, he's never been in office. You might like his position on the issues, but that's not his record.

Anyhow, it basically comes down to this: Do you want a new Paul Coverdell in the Senate (Isakson), or a new Phil Gramm (Cain)?

I'd be fine with either.


11 posted on 07/16/2004 1:06:05 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Valerius Poplicola
Welcome to FreeRepublic.

May i make a request (or word of advice): not all of us are from Georgia. I'm from Virginia and I don't know who is running for what in other states, but I'm interested. I'm interested how the Conservative / Republican candidates are doing in both House and Senate races in those other states.

So, please write out the whole name and party for us in other states. For example, when I write about my Senators: Senator John Warner (R-VA) and Senator George Allen (R-VA), or Congressman, Representative Virgil Goode (R-VA 5th dist.), I write them out for those in other states not familiar with Virginia.

Bottom line: I'm as interested as you are, but I'm out of the "Georgia loop", so I don't know how to reply or whether to be encouraged or discouraged...

12 posted on 07/16/2004 1:08:11 PM PDT by KriegerGeist ("Only one life to live and soon it is past, and only what was done for Jesus Christ shall last")
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To: Geist Krieger

Thanks Geist Krieger, I'll do that in future posts. As for this post, here's the information: Johnny Isakson is the Republican from Georgia's 6th Congressional District, it covers north-western metro Atlanta. Mac Collins is the Republican from Georgia's 8th Congressional District, which covers from just south of Atlanta down to Columbus.


13 posted on 07/16/2004 1:18:22 PM PDT by Valerius Poplicola
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To: Valerius Poplicola

I'm voting for Collins.


14 posted on 07/16/2004 1:33:47 PM PDT by Hanging Chad
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To: Valerius Poplicola

welcome.
We have a Herman Cain pinglist around here somewheres...


15 posted on 07/16/2004 1:34:09 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: zbigreddogz

No. I want a Georgia version of Jesse Helms..Mac Collins..Mac has the experience..he is not a moderate like Isakson...he is not inexperienced like Cain....With Collins you will get hard work, straight talk and common sense solutions....I hope Georgians don't make the mistake like Virginia did when the Virginia GOP nominated that Oliver North instead of a good man like Reagan's former OMB chief Jim Miller....


16 posted on 07/16/2004 1:37:40 PM PDT by SmithPatterson
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To: Thane_Banquo

Republican.
Self-made millionaire.
Former CEO and COTB for Godfather's Pizza (among other things).
Solid conservative.
Solid Christian - but no theocrat.
Backs the Traditional Marriage amendment.
IIRC, I have heard he backs "English first" propositions.

I'm voting for him, and have been doing local work for his southern campaign office.

go here for info:
http://www.cainforussenate.org/default.asp


17 posted on 07/16/2004 1:45:57 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: Valerius Poplicola

Thanks. Having Cain (or Collins) in the Senate would be wonderful. Its a shame they are working against each other. IMHO, one of them, (prefably Collins, because Cain is more conservative and seems to be doing better in the polls) should drop out.


18 posted on 07/16/2004 2:00:53 PM PDT by Scholastic
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To: Valerius Poplicola
Thank you for the inside info. I hope you are right. I just came from a Cain event in Bibb county which had about 50 people. It was a good turnout for a weekday afternoon and the local news was there.

I think Cain will have good numbers in Middle GA. Bibb Republicans seem evenly divided among 1)Cain supporters; 2)traditional, country club republicans who don't pay attention to politics and vote for who they've heard of before (thus Isakson); 3)and Collins supporters who are conservative but will never vote for a black person. (I don't mean this to be inflammatory, I just think this is how it is), This last group may be the "silent majority", considering I have only seen 1 Collins sign in Bibb. But signs don't win elections.
19 posted on 07/16/2004 2:33:43 PM PDT by CondiArmy
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To: Valerius Poplicola

I don't know anything about either Isakson or Collins...but on a national level, the party could use a Herman Cain.


20 posted on 07/16/2004 2:37:35 PM PDT by WillRain
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