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To: StevenAU
In Jesus, we find the central role model put forth by Christianity. He was, by all standards, a pacifist.

Flat wrong. First, it was Jesus who suggested disciples take swords with them on their travels:

35Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" "Nothing," they answered. 36He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." - Luke 22:35-36

Also, Paul made it clear that there was nothing contradictory in a Christian being a soldier, and used warfare and soldiering as metaphors for the Christian life.

Yes, Jesus calls for peace and forebearance. No He is not, "by all standards," a pacifist.

8 posted on 07/16/2004 11:41:29 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: kezekiel
Flat wrong. First, it was Jesus who suggested disciples take swords with them on their travels:

TO make this statement you're taking one verse out of context. It demonstrates someone with no real knowledge of the bible as a whole, rather someone who has read bits and pieces or listened to someone else on a website somewhere.

10 posted on 07/16/2004 11:44:36 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kezekiel

Finally, someone who understands. Some are called to peace, some are called to war. He equips us for the mission we are to fulfill. It is written that He did not come to bring peace.


27 posted on 07/16/2004 1:05:33 PM PDT by lifelongsoldier (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.)
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To: kezekiel
In Jesus, we find the central role model put forth by Christianity. He was, by all standards, a pacifist.

Jesus said that his kingdom was not of this earth. This doesn't translate into pacifism.
95 posted on 01/22/2007 5:42:28 AM PST by aruanan
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