[kjam22]

Flat wrong. First, it was Jesus who suggested disciples take swords with them on their travels:

TO make this statement you're taking one verse out of context. It demonstrates someone with no real knowledge of the bible as a whole, rather someone who has read bits and pieces or listened to someone else on a website somewhere.

[kezekiel]

TO make this statement you're taking one verse out of context. It demonstrates someone with no real knowledge of the bible as a whole, rather someone who has read bits and pieces or listened to someone else on a website somewhere.

Educate me.

[Irene Adler]

"Flat wrong. First, it was Jesus who suggested disciples take swords with them on their travels"

: "TO make this statement you're taking one verse out of context. It demonstrates someone with no real knowledge of the bible as a whole, rather someone who has read bits and pieces or listened to someone else on a website somewhere."

The meaning of the verse is clear. How exactly would "context" change it? I have just re-read the verse and the verses before and after it. I see no ambiguity.

[Irene Adler]

"Flat wrong. First, it was Jesus who suggested disciples take swords with them on their travels"

: "TO make this statement you're taking one verse out of context. It demonstrates someone with no real knowledge of the bible as a whole, rather someone who has read bits and pieces or listened to someone else on a website somewhere."

The meaning of the verse is clear. How exactly would "context" change it? I have just re-read the verse and the verses before and after it. I see no ambiguity.

How does one tell, for sure, just who has "real" knowledge of the Bible, anyway. Just you, maybe?

[VOA]

If Christianity pushes a "pacifism all the time" agenda, then the following passage maybe
the following passage prohibits Christians from law enforcement and military service.
Maybe we're suppossed to sit by like the Amish/Mennonites and let
someone else bleed while protecting us.


Romans 13
1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God:
the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that
resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be
afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil,
be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger
to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending
continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom
custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.