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Mo. High Court May Decide Whether Boy Can Be Circumcised
Kansas City Channel ^ | July 15, 2004

Posted on 07/16/2004 8:42:13 AM PDT by presidio9

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- For most little boys, circumcision is a decision for the parents to make. But the Missouri Supreme Court may make that decision for one local boy because his parents don't agree.

Two-and-a-half-year-old Ethan Azar's mother does not want to have him circumcised.

"There's no medical society in the world that recommends it, including the American Academy of Pediatrics," said Camille Azar.

But Ethan's father was recently granted sole custody. He wants his son circumcised. While the boy's father and his attorney would not appear on camera, they did cite personal, social and health reasons for wanting the circumcision, KMBC's Kelly Eckerman reported.

Circumcision removes the layer of skin covering the penis. It is something more and more parents are opting not to do, Eckerman said. The medical community calls it a personal decision.

"Everyone has their bias. But we try to base recommendations on sound medical evidence and it just isn't there to say yes or no," Dr. Ken Wible said.

Lower courts refused to intervene, so the case is now going to the Missouri Supreme Court to see if Ethan's father should be able to go ahead with the circumcision.

"The fact the courts have ruled he can make medical decisions doesn't mean he can make a decision to have part of the healthy living flesh of the child cut off," said Dennis Owens, Camille Azar's attorney.

Doctors did tell KMBC that Ethan's age is a factor.

"At that age, a child is going to need anesthesia," Wible said.

Camille Azar said that the decision should be up to her son when he's older.

"I want Ethan to make the decision about his own body," Camille Azar said.

Eckerman said that religion plays a role in some families' decisions about circumcision, but that has not been an issue here. The battle over Ethan's circumcision comes in the middle of a custody battle. A decision from the state's high court is expected within two weeks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: anteaters; circumcision; cleanliness; mutilation; warheads
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To: Xenalyte

Hehehe you're right!


141 posted on 07/16/2004 11:12:37 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: All
For reference, the following is the official position of the AMA and the American Academy of Pediatrics:

Existing scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision; however, these data are not sufficent to recommend routine neonatal circumcision. In the case of circumcision; in which there are potential benefits, yet the procedure is not essential to the child's current well-being, parents should determine what is in the best interest of the child. To make an informed choice, parents of all infants should be given unbiased information and be provided the opportunity to discuss this decision. It is legitimate for parents to take into account cultural, religious, and ethnic traditions, in addition to medical factors, when making this decision. Analgesia is safe and effective in reducing the procedural pain associated with circumcision; therefore, if a decision for circumcision is made, procedural analgesia should be provided. If circumcision is performed in the newborn period, it should be done only on infants who are stable and healthy.

142 posted on 07/16/2004 11:12:43 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: cyborg
All the liberal chicks putting out makes it difficult, esp. here in NY where women outnumber men and guys have lots of choices.

Hopefully, a few people will see that "Sex and the City" was an ultimately empty lifestyle. The "girls" on that show were fundamentally unhappy with their diet of free sex.

SD

143 posted on 07/16/2004 11:13:25 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: cyborg
That's not what I asked. I asked if what happens if a girl does not want to give a guy oral sex? Then what?

Well, I guess she can't nag at him as much.

I mean, tit for tat, so to speak.

144 posted on 07/16/2004 11:14:07 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Xenalyte
As a woman whose experience is, um, largely confined to those who have had the surgery,

Must....not.....make....smartass....comment....

145 posted on 07/16/2004 11:14:36 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: AmishDude

that's a good trade


146 posted on 07/16/2004 11:15:06 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Servant of the 9
This case surprises me because it is usually the women who insist on circumcision, not the fathers.
Really? In the discussions I have heard it's usually women who are against the circumcision.
147 posted on 07/16/2004 11:15:13 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: xsmommy; presidio9
your threads run to the penile?

Any thread Pres starts, I am THERE, and that is why!
148 posted on 07/16/2004 11:15:21 AM PDT by Xenalyte (The first step is to admit you have a problem.)
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To: Xenalyte; presidio9

he is a fun sort.... ; )


149 posted on 07/16/2004 11:15:53 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: cyborg

Mutually beneficial I think. Both sexes can fulfill their bases urges.


150 posted on 07/16/2004 11:16:53 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: cyborg
"if you say no sex till marriage well a girl can look forward to a life of knitting and house cats."

There are guys out there looking for virtuous women instead of sluts.

151 posted on 07/16/2004 11:16:53 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: Xenalyte
There sure is - you just can't recognize it.

If you can find humor in this topic, you've got real problems, Ace. Seek help.

152 posted on 07/16/2004 11:17:13 AM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: johniegrad

You know why Rabbis don't charge for circumcisions?????





They just take tips.


153 posted on 07/16/2004 11:17:48 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: cyborg

154 posted on 07/16/2004 11:18:11 AM PDT by Xenalyte (The first step is to admit you have a problem.)
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To: MEGoody

That's good to know. Meeting such guys depends on a girl's social circle and being in the right place at the right time.


155 posted on 07/16/2004 11:18:48 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: US admirer

Meticulous hygiene is a MUST in that situation.


156 posted on 07/16/2004 11:19:00 AM PDT by Xenalyte (The first step is to admit you have a problem.)
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To: Xenalyte
"Then he dumps her and finds a more willing chick!"

If he was only seeing her to get oral sex, then she is well rid of him.

157 posted on 07/16/2004 11:19:14 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: NCLaw441
You know what Martha recommends for a cicumcision party?

Calimari tips in red sauce.
158 posted on 07/16/2004 11:20:49 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Modernman

I did see one, um, differently-abled one, once or twice.


159 posted on 07/16/2004 11:21:06 AM PDT by Xenalyte (The first step is to admit you have a problem.)
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To: Xenalyte
This puzzles me.

Those of us who have little boys know that it is a pretty major battle to get them to

1. Wash their hands before meals

2. Change their muddy clothes

3. Brush and floss their teeth

4. Trim their nails

5. Pick up their stuff

. . . . etc. etc.

And from THIS sort of creature you can expect "meticulous hygiene"? Not hardly.

160 posted on 07/16/2004 11:21:21 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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