Posted on 07/15/2004 8:36:41 PM PDT by nwctwx
Apparently 10 people overcome by fumes on flight, 4 in critical condition. This was reported at the half hour flash (11:30PM EDT).
stuck_in_new_orleans,No one on this thread panicked .
The threat of terrorism is real.
It's a relief, when something turns out to be something that has nothing to do with it.
In the pre-9-11 days people didn't even think about terrorism as a possible cause for something.
But now, that is what comes to mind first, and that is normal.
The government is distributing chemincal antidotes -- there is a reason for that.
And the terrorists already tried it before:
Bin Laden British cell planned gas attack on EU Parliament
http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/16/wbin16.xml
ISLAMIC terrorists based in Britain and controlled by Osama bin Laden planned a devastating attack in February on the European Parliament building in Strasbourg.
A six-strong terror cell funded by the Saudi fugitive planned to kill all 625 Euro-MPs, and scores of officials, by releasing sarin gas into the parliament building.
The attack was scheduled to take place during the session of parliament from February 11 to 14 this year and was to be the first in a series of assaults against prominent buildings across Europe. Algerian terrorists based in London and funded directly by bin Laden worked with counterparts in Milan and Frankfurt.
The plot was foiled after German police smashed the Frankfurt operation in a series of raids. The British-based six men were arrested and charged with offences under the Prevention of Terrorism Act.
Thanks for the links . I knew that I had seen this information, but I could not remember where.
sorry, sceptible=skeptical
I can't imagine food being so "bad" that a) it could incapacitate people within an hour or so, yet b) not so bad that it wouldn't be incredibly obvious that it was inedible.
Had nothing to do with food, or fumes. NOBODY was in critical condition. And it only affected four people; a woman got on the plane already sick, threw up, and people around her felt nauseous....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53806-2004Jul16.html
"Four people became ill last night on an airliner headed for Baltimore-Washington International Airport, prompting a flurry of anxiety as initial reports suggested that the situation was considerably more severe..."
"..Of the four who reported symptoms after the Southwest Airlines jetliner from Houston landed, one woman was taken to a hospital, where her condition was described as non-life-threatening. The other three declined hospitalization..."
"...Authorities said it appeared that she had been ill before boarding the flight at William P. Hobby International Airport and had thrown up while en route..."
"...They also said it appeared that others around her who reported becoming lightheaded and nauseated may have experienced those symptoms as a response to the woman's illness..."
"...One started throwing up, and others sitting nearby" did so afterward in a "reactive response," said BWI spokeswoman Cheryl Stewart. An airline spokeswoman said the others may have suffered from "sympathy nausea..."
I'm flying out of BWI later this a.m. on Southwest.
Hope they don't use this plane for my trip.
Prqayers for you,little info here on thread.
Thanks. I'm a former commercial airline pilot and I hate to fly. I don't fear it - I just hate it.
Have to agree with RBA on this one. Aircraft A/C systems are driven by air bled off the compressors and electricity being drawn from the aircraft bus. Turning it down or off or to max isn't going to effect fuel consumption on the engine one bit. Bleed air is pretty well factored into the design of the engine - the ones I used to work on had a start bleed strap - we'd bleed air off the compressors just so we could get them started - otherwise, the compression levels were just too high.
Thanks.
Nothing in an aircraft system that is not in an emrgency situation is going to make people sick, including that bogus lawsuit by flight attendants versus Alaska Airlines years ago. That was not due to "bad air", it was the bacteria growing under the galleys, in spite of what the courts decided.
please see post 248 and change thread title.
Did they serve fish for dinner?
Just getting caught up this AM and saw the Lion's Game reference. Great book, but great similarity... 'course don't know the entries on the rest of the thread yet...
This is what, the 4th or 5th incident in the last few weeks involving fumes, vapors, smells, whatever, inside that cabin of a commercial airplane. Seems to me that the easieist way for the enemy to take over an airplane is to incapacitate the other passengers without incapacitating themselves. Another practice run again?
Some people there were becoming ill and others were pretty shaken up.
The odor turned out to be caused by a "stink bomb" that's just a little capsule thrown on the floor to break.As I understand,these little capsules are made for the joke and novelty trade.
My guess is that a hydraulic line got a pinhole in it and the hydraulic fluid (called Skydraul) came out in a mist. The stuff will burn your skin and choke you and even peel paint. The reason they use it is because it isn't as flammable as standard hydraulic fluid.
I loved that book. I mostly enjoy reading his earlier books but that one was so interesting at this time. I used to ride the DC subway to work and there was this guy (muslim looking) reading this book. My first thought was oh no what might he be learning from it. I did start up a conversation with him about the book and it seems he was tunisian and married to a jew. I guess my imagination ran wild. I still wonder though.
Officials say one passenger with a stomach virus was the cause of all the excitement at BWI late last night.
Spokeswomen for BWI and Southwest say a woman who boarded a flight from Houston to Baltimore had a stomach virus, became ill and vomited on the plane. As a result, three other people became nauseous.
Southwest spokeswoman Brandy King says doctors call the phenomenon "sympathy nausea."
The pilot activated an in-flight emergency assistance service, which led fire and emergency medical crews to meet the plane and isolate it when it landed around 10:30pm. Hazmat crews tested the air on the plane, and found nothing toxic or abnormal.
Only the passenger who initially got sick was hospitalized.
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