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Air Marshals Say Dress Code Makes Them Stick Out
The NY Times ^ | 071504 | By BRIAN WINGFIELD

Posted on 07/15/2004 1:34:41 PM PDT by Archangelsk

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To: Archangelsk
"In order to gain respect in a situation, you must be attired to gain respect,"

Interesting. And to think that I thought that a .45 would gain the respect.

21 posted on 07/15/2004 1:56:12 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: CPC

Lo and behold, the problems of a centrally managed goverment operation, oblivious to the local norms.


22 posted on 07/15/2004 1:59:07 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Archangelsk
Air Marshals Say Dress Code Makes Them Stick Out

What? No zippers?

23 posted on 07/15/2004 2:00:03 PM PDT by OSHA (The meek may inherit the earth but they'll never get out of the Wal-Mart parking lot.)
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To: finnman69
Or perhaps...
24 posted on 07/15/2004 2:01:04 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Archangelsk

It is like the undercover FBI agents back in the hippie sixties. They would remove their ties, unbutton their white long-sleved shirts and put on their sunglasses.

It is crucial that the Air Marshals not be typed.


25 posted on 07/15/2004 2:02:08 PM PDT by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947, but some are still hoping!)
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To: Bella_Bru

The more sensible alternative is to abolish this ridiculous category of supercitizens and go back to pre-1960's where the right to keep and bear arms wasn't infringed during travel.


26 posted on 07/15/2004 2:02:26 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

If an air marshall wears a tank top and shorts, where is he going to carry his sidearm? Perhaps that is the reason they wear suits.


27 posted on 07/15/2004 2:03:14 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: traumer
OR.....
28 posted on 07/15/2004 2:05:01 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Archangelsk

some days I think michael moore may be right. maybe we are a dumb country. lets fight terrorists with one half our brain tied behind our backs.

I rode cross country next to a guy who didnt talk and never took off his suit jacket. thought it was odd at the time. I guess now I know why


29 posted on 07/15/2004 2:05:51 PM PDT by beebuster2000 (the only thing quagmired is the lib mind)
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To: LizardQueen

*PING*


30 posted on 07/15/2004 2:06:52 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Archangelsk

FWIW, we flew on Southwest yesterday out of Baltimore to San Diego. We got a pre-board due to my wife's knee problems, so we watched everyone get on the airplane from our first-row seat (Southwest has no assigned seats, of course).

My wife saw the TSA guy show his creds to the pilot and head flight attendant, and he sat down in the second row on the aisle. He was dressed like a vacationer or business casual (open neck print shirt, slacks, didn't see the shoes). He conversed with my wife several times on the long flight, and with the lady in the window seat - mainly about weather and vacations. Very pleasant and well-spoken fellow. Seemed to have a laptop and some business papers - couldn't look too carefully, of course.


31 posted on 07/15/2004 2:09:30 PM PDT by RandyRep
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Suits? Feh! Air marshals should wear tuxedos.

Bond. James Bond.

32 posted on 07/15/2004 2:14:02 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (You can lead a liberal to the facts but you can't make him think.)
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To: jriemer

Omigod is this stupid or what. Let 'em dress however they think they'd be most effective. Our gov't is certifiably insane.

LQ


33 posted on 07/15/2004 2:14:35 PM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: Archangelsk

And this is the government agency charged with protecting the militia?!?!?

It is no wonder those guys are leaving the service in droves (similar to the droves that signed up in the first place). With fewer and fewer folk, they were working "day on, stay on" and putting more hours than a long haul trucker.

Gotta be inconspicuous, gotta be alert, gotta be there.


34 posted on 07/15/2004 2:16:37 PM PDT by petro45acp ("Government might not be too bad...................if it weren't for all the polititians!")
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To: RandyRep

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.

The Marshals should be undercover. Board with the rest of the passengers, dress like a regular passenger, everything.

The general public is familiar with the concept of undercover cops. We'll accept that the guy is a professional once we see his badge.

I once had the pleasure of seeing an undercover NYPD Transit Officer in action. A really drunk guy on my subway started hassling the other passengers, threatening and shouting. This average looking, kinda scruffy guy stood up, flashed his badge, and took him into custody. He took him off at the next station. Nobody in that car was thinking "boy, does that cop look like a slob."

Homeland Security is also admitting that they're wasting a valuable opportunity by only watching the passengers after they have boarded the plane. A marshall in jeans and a sweatshirt standing around before boarding has an excellent opportunity to scope out the passengers and look for anything suspicious. They could seek out troublemakers, but choose instead to sit back and wait for the terrorists to start something before getting involved.

Dumb. I expect better from Ridge and Co.


35 posted on 07/15/2004 2:22:25 PM PDT by horatio
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To: Archangelsk

Well, if they just made them wear a white shirt and tie, with no coat, and put them in pairs, and made sure they looked like they were in their early 20's, they could be disguised as Mormon missionaries.


36 posted on 07/15/2004 2:31:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Archangelsk
i know, i know.. what we really need are uniforms you approve of -every where-. if the scum dont like it.. well, more proof that they are scum. we could with check you now and then and maybe a guy could grow a mustache. but all guys would have to grow one of course.
37 posted on 07/15/2004 2:41:33 PM PDT by eleven_eleven
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To: OldEagle

lol.. correct. you could spot a narc in a crowd just by his shoes.


38 posted on 07/15/2004 2:44:16 PM PDT by eleven_eleven
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To: Archangelsk

Homeland Security is run by idiots.


39 posted on 07/15/2004 2:50:33 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: Archangelsk

Did Gorelick make up this rule, It sound a lot like what Clinton did to the CIA when he made them stop recruiting scumbags for informants/.


40 posted on 07/15/2004 2:55:39 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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