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1 posted on 07/14/2004 4:57:47 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: *bang_list
13 days.

aaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, in the words of Mr. Dean.

2 posted on 07/14/2004 4:59:28 PM PDT by SJackson (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good, Hillary Clinton)
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To: SJackson
Congress has adjourned for today, thus, there are only 12 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires
3 posted on 07/14/2004 5:00:59 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: SJackson

I happen to have a TEC-9 in my collection.
What a piece of crap it is.


4 posted on 07/14/2004 5:01:42 PM PDT by DefCon
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***SOME OF THE RESULTS OF WEAKENED CONCEALED WEAPONS LAWS

-- A Georgia woman was arrested after pointing her concealed handgun at another mother during an argument over their eleven- year-old daughter's basketball game at school;

-- A Michigan man was arrested for threatening to shoot two other men with his concealed handgun during a dispute over clearing trash off his property;

-- A Virginia man was arrested for carrying a concealed handgun into an elementary school, where it was left in an unattended backpack in the classroom until a teacher noticed it;

-- An Alabama man accidentally shot himself and a bystander in a movie theater showing "102 Dalmatians," when the concealed handgun fell out of his pocket;

-- A Pennsylvania man shot and killed a neighbor with a concealed handgun during an argument over where to dump snow that was being shoveled off the property.

http://www.usnewswire.com/ ***


WOW, 5 people. And how many people were saved during that same time by people carrying LEGAL handguns?


5 posted on 07/14/2004 5:02:19 PM PDT by irishtenor (Taglines are the bonus at the end of the message :>))
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To: SJackson
Here's what one online gun information source says:

Well, if its on that new-fangled "Interweb" thingummy-bob, it must be true!

6 posted on 07/14/2004 5:03:25 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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Note to self re: shopping list...
7 posted on 07/14/2004 5:03:55 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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If the Brady Bunch are this looney in July, will they be leaping off of buildings come September?!


8 posted on 07/14/2004 5:04:56 PM PDT by Redcloak (This tagline closed for remodeling. We apologize for any inconvenience.)
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To: SJackson

Remarkable demonstration that logic should only be practiced by licensed professionals. This might require a trip to the Logic Emergency Room.


10 posted on 07/14/2004 5:05:36 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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So it is the President's job to hold the hand of the Congress to make sure a piece of largely ignored legislation gets reenacted?

Wonderful...the propaganda machine continues to churn....


12 posted on 07/14/2004 5:06:39 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Kerry renames the US The People's Republic of America)
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The applicant does not have to show any need for carrying a hidden handgun and law enforcement has no discretion to deny permits even if they think public safety may be endangered, absent a prohibiting offense.

To the communist that posted this drivel

It's called freedom, get over your pathetic, whining little fears.

13 posted on 07/14/2004 5:08:54 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Many a law, many a commandment have I broken, but my word never.)
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I know you just post this crap for giggles, but let's not take them too seriously.

The Brady Campaign numbers around 9 people total. They'll only have 8 when Sarah finally croaks.

14 posted on 07/14/2004 5:09:10 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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SOME OF THE RESULTS OF WEAKENED CONCEALED WEAPONS LAWS

Notice that only in one case did anything actually HAPPEN! And it's arguable that in that case, anyone stupid enough to shoot someone over something that inane is a threat to society with or without a handgun.

Besides, if these are the most heinous incidents that have occurred as the direct result of "weakened" concealed carry laws, it's certainly a price I'm willing to pay.

15 posted on 07/14/2004 5:11:35 PM PDT by IronJack
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Let's see, where can I start:
  1. The AW Ban has no effect on the ability to carry a Tec-9 concealed. The AWB only stopped the continued SALE of certain firearms and magazines manufactored after the date the AWB took effect
  2. The Tec-9 is a lousy crime gun. It's cheaply made and jams easily. The only thing going for it is its appearance
  3. The list of offenses commited by CCW holders is insignificant. You can bet the house that Brady printed EVERY significant offense they ever heard of over the last umpteen years. If this is all they got, then CCW holders have a lower rate of gun crime than cops do (a significant number of cops are arrested each year for crimes including armed robbery, murdering witnesses for the benefit of drug gangs, etc)

16 posted on 07/14/2004 5:13:09 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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That means that if the assault weapons ban expires, a banned weapon like the Tec-9 assault pistol, equipped with a 36- or 50- round magazine, could be legally carried, concealed, into many workplaces and popular establishments crowded with people.

Psssssst. Mr. Hamm. Take out the word "legally" and you describe a situation no different than the one today. And anyone determined to wreak mayhem in the workplace or popular establishment isn't likely to concern himself with legal niceties anyway.

Would you care to look at what the AWB has NOT done???

17 posted on 07/14/2004 5:14:20 PM PDT by IronJack
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That means that if the assault weapons ban expires, a banned weapon ..., equipped with a 36- or 50- round magazine, could be legally carried, concealed, into many workplaces and popular establishments crowded with people.

Here in Arizona, it is legal to carry an AR-15, AKM, etc. (pre- or postban) IN A NON-THREATENING MANNER. Although, I've not seen one EVER as an open carry weapon, it sure would turn some heads.

What would the mode of carry be? Slung in some manner? Australian carry? Giles tactical sling? The fact that I'm asking in a well armed open carry State, puts the lie to the Brady Bunch's mad ravings.

23 posted on 07/14/2004 5:20:23 PM PDT by nonsporting
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-- An Alabama man accidentally shot himself and a bystander in a movie theater showing "102 (sic) Dalmatians," when the concealed handgun fell out of his pocket;

IIRC, in this incident, the guy carrying concealed was an off-duty POLICE OFFICER. I seem to recall that a thread was posted to FR last year on this particular incident.

In any event, as one of those "evil" concealed carry permit holders, I usually carry openly anyway. But the CCW does mean that after I fill out the BATF form 4479, I can just display my CCW and my gun guy doesn't have to run another background check on me ..... :)

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28 posted on 07/14/2004 5:28:26 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An oath is FOREVER)
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Don't you love the sound of gun grabber's whining in the morning. Of course when the Ugly Gun Ban expires, the wailing and gnashing of teeth will be even sweeter. :)
29 posted on 07/14/2004 5:28:41 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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....a banned weapon like the Tec-9 assault pistol, equipped with a 36- or 50- round magazine, could be legally carried, concealed, into many workplaces and popular establishments crowded with people.

Oh, no!!! The HUMANITY!!!(/sarcasm)

Hey, I never thought of that, I'll have to look at them at the next Gun show after the AWB sunsets!

Seriously, if such a firearm were carried by someone who had gone through the local & FBI criminal background check to get a concealed weapons permit, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

The people who have concealed weapons permits are not the problem with US gun violence!

The lawabiding people who follow gun laws, are not the problem with US gun violence.

The problem with US gun violence is that it is for the most part committed by criminals who pay little mind to the existing laws or the laws that Brady, et. al. would like to have on the books.

32 posted on 07/14/2004 5:29:21 PM PDT by Robert357
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Brady Campaign?
Million Moron March?

Nuff said...

33 posted on 07/14/2004 5:31:24 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: basil; PistolPaknMama; 2nd amendment mama
In 35 states, the laws governing citizens carrying concealed weapons have been loosened to a ridiculous standard, with police forced to issue concealed handgun permits to virtually anyone who does not have a felony conviction. In many of those states, hidden handguns are allowed in public places like restaurants, bars, sports arenas, supermarkets and even places of worship.

I was going to suggest a campaign to send these people new panties (to replace the ones that they soil every day thinking about "hidden handguns"), but we've already seen that panties can be responsible for irrational fear and incoherent babbling as well.

38 posted on 07/14/2004 5:38:10 PM PDT by dbwz (CAN THE BAN!)
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