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100 things you should know about DDT
Junkscience.com ^ | 1999 | J. Gordon Edwards and Steven Milloy

Posted on 07/14/2004 2:59:07 PM PDT by swilhelm73

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1 posted on 07/14/2004 2:59:08 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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Literally tens of millions of people have died needlessly as a direct result of the DDT ban.


2 posted on 07/14/2004 3:02:15 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: swilhelm73

On the issue of birds.....

One has to wonder why you suddenly began to see hawks, herons, and eagles again after the ban, and then a population explosion of all of the above soon after.

In terms of the effects on birds in the US, I don't think there was anything wrong with the DDT science.


3 posted on 07/14/2004 3:03:49 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: swilhelm73

With West Nile proliferating, DDT really needs to be revisited by UNbiased researchers.


4 posted on 07/14/2004 3:03:53 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: swilhelm73

And at a time when West Nile has become a concern - it's time to start using DDT again.

It's time that the junk science behind the banning of DDT be made public - and I don't mean simply on an internet web page - IT's time for new hearings and a re-evaluation.

What an amazing bunch the Left is. They accuse anyone not on their side of lies (even when the truth is being told) - but have no qualms about lying themselves...


5 posted on 07/14/2004 3:08:41 PM PDT by TheBattman (http://www.answersingenesis.com)
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To: facedown
Literally tens of millions of people have died needlessly as a direct result of the DDT ban.

Frankly, since most of them have dark skin and live in the third world that is viewed as a benefit to much of the Left.
6 posted on 07/14/2004 3:08:41 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (We always have been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France. -Duke Wellington)
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To: Strategerist
You didn't even read it, did you?
7 posted on 07/14/2004 3:09:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Little Pig

I've always looked at the DDT ban as one of the more insideously transparent methods of population control favored by the left.

"Let the brown people die so there will be more room on earth for me."

Its just sick.

They're also doing it by promoting promiscuity in AIDS ravaged Africa. See recent posts on condoms vs. abstinance.


8 posted on 07/14/2004 3:11:35 PM PDT by keat
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9 posted on 07/14/2004 3:11:51 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: swilhelm73
DDT can be used safely for all the things it is irreplacable for.
Problems happen with any chemical if people spread it around indiscriminately.
The laws we now have controlling the use of all pesticides are adequate to keep things in check.

SO9

10 posted on 07/14/2004 3:15:24 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: swilhelm73

It was Rachel Carlson and her book "Silent Spring" that started the hysteria against DDT
We need to bring this stuff back and pronto....
DDT saves lives....the ban on DDT costs human lives...


11 posted on 07/14/2004 3:17:26 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: swilhelm73
As young children it was a curious site to see that billowing cloud of DDT coming out of the tank carried on the back of a truck. We would follow it all over the place.

It never hurt us.

12 posted on 07/14/2004 3:19:45 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You didn't even read it, did you?

Of course I read it.

I have little doubt there are plenty of peer-reviewed scientific studies documenting a DDT-egg thinning link, as well as ones not showing one, and I suspect the former outnumber the latter. The article, of course, selected the studies supporting its position.

I've also lived in rural areas for the majority of my life and spend a lot of time observing the wildlife.

When I was a child, seeing a hawk, osprey, heron etc. was a BIG DEAL. Now there's one on every other telelphone pole or marker buoy.

13 posted on 07/14/2004 3:20:04 PM PDT by Strategerist
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You are correct about the birds, I think. We never saw Canada Geese except in flight. We never saw an Eagle in the wild but see them often now along the Merrimac river. Many things have occurred over the years however that may have caused these populations to recover as did the White tail deer population and I think it is for two relatively simple reasons. One, for the deer and the goose their primary predator is essentially outlawed today and that is the the dog that runs loose during the day and night as it is a violation of law in nearly all towns to have them run free. For the Eagle, they now have plenty of salmon to eat. Before about 15 years ago, dams on the rivers had no fish ladders and very little food for the big birds.


14 posted on 07/14/2004 3:24:12 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: joesnuffy

Do we really need the to decrease the mortality rate of the third world. They breed like rats, immigrate here, and breed like rats. Come on, until this people mitigate their birth rates their mortality rate should not subside. They live naturally thus they should die naturally. We cannot intefere with death in these places unless we interfere with life, it throws everything out of balance. Besides that I do not want to live in a rat cage, which is what I see happening. Call me heartless but I am damn sick of all these people and third world customs being dumped on us.


15 posted on 07/14/2004 3:26:11 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: Final Authority

Well, this was living on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, so Salmon were not the issue....

Many of the birds mentioned as exploding in population in the originally posted article are NOT large top predators, such as blackbirds, and when it does mention such birds, it uses small scale increases of them in a small locality, like Ospreys in one particular location.

DDT wasn't the sole cause of the problems of large top predator birds, but I'm fairly confident it was one of the main ones.

That said, in countries with severe malaria problems in the Third World, you still use it of course.


16 posted on 07/14/2004 3:28:28 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: swilhelm73

2 things you need to know about DDT

1) it works
2) the science that precipitated it's ban was phony.


17 posted on 07/14/2004 3:30:59 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED ( Kerry/Edwards......Lame-o and Blame-o)
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To: swilhelm73

Bookmark


18 posted on 07/14/2004 3:32:25 PM PDT by spodefly (I alone deciphered the underlying meaning in the article, and replied with eloquence ...)
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To: swilhelm73

bttt


19 posted on 07/14/2004 3:37:10 PM PDT by Phyto Chems (Convert or DIE is there call --- but I will remember Nick Berg & now Paul Johnson and .....)
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To: TASMANIANRED

OMG= Carson's "silent spring" is not a bible? Who would have 'thunk it'?


20 posted on 07/14/2004 3:41:29 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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