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Saving "Merry Christmas"
Foxnews.com ^ | July 13, 2004 | Fox News

Posted on 07/13/2004 2:01:55 PM PDT by Ebenezer

LOS ANGELES — It isn’t exactly the season for “Jingle Bells” and Santa Claus, but one man is on a crusade to save Christmas anyway.

Manuel Zammarano has formed the Committee to Save Merry Christmas [(155 Judah Court, Folsom, CA 95630)] to protest the fact that big retailers profit from Christmas shopping dollars but refuse to mention the holiday by name.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: bloomingdales; boycott; california; christmas; macys; manuelzammarano; merrychristmas; savechristmas; savingchristmas; savingmerrychristmas
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As Teddy Roosevelt would have said, "Bully for Zammarano!" I urge fellow FReepers to read the whole article via the link above.
1 posted on 07/13/2004 2:01:57 PM PDT by Ebenezer
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To: rrstar96

I read the article. I did not encounter a single store where employees did not return a "Merry Christmas" greeting last Christmas season.

This is a silly campaign, IMO. Just say "Merry Christmas," and folks will respond.

Yes, some people say "Season's Greetings" or "Happy Holidays." Not everyone celebrates Christmas as a religious holiday. Not everyone is a Christian.

Celebrate as you choose.


2 posted on 07/13/2004 2:13:12 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

Christmas is being stamped out by the looney left and needs to be defended.

I remember Christmas parties, Nativity Plays, Nativity displays, Christmas lights, public Christmas Trees, Caroling, and Christmas shopping when I was a kid.

Now they have all but disappeared and been replaced by "happy holidays" in what is an 80% Christian population


3 posted on 07/13/2004 2:50:11 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Wil H

bump


4 posted on 07/13/2004 2:52:58 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: Wil H

Good Friday is now being called April Day too. I saw this on a school marquee and couldn't figure out what April Day was until I remembered the next day was Good Friday.


5 posted on 07/13/2004 2:55:04 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: HungarianGypsy

Sad.


6 posted on 07/13/2004 2:57:15 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: HungarianGypsy

And some years it will be March Day----how silly!!!!!


7 posted on 07/13/2004 2:57:17 PM PDT by Mears
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To: MineralMan

"Celebrate as you choose."


Indeed. A Festivas for the rest of us, as Frank Costanza would say.


8 posted on 07/13/2004 2:59:12 PM PDT by Blzbba (Hillary Clinton - Dawn of a New Error.)
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To: rrstar96; NYer; Polycarp IV; Aquinasfan; Desdemona; livius; Siobhan; american colleen; eastsider; ..
Manuel Zammarano has formed the Committee to Save Merry Christmas [(155 Judah Court, Folsom, CA 95630)] to protest the fact that big retailers profit from Christmas shopping dollars but refuse to mention the holiday by name.

Good point. PC silliness has no business denigrating the Christian essence of Christmas. How can we help?

9 posted on 07/13/2004 3:00:17 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Mears

My husband was making fun of the April Day also. He wondered why there wasn't a February Day, March Day, etc. Anyone who doesn't observe Good Friday can call it anything they want in their own minds. It's still going to "coincidentally" land on Good Friday, so it's silly to call it anything else. The same as Winter Break coincidentally landing the same week as Christmas.


10 posted on 07/13/2004 3:01:04 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: MineralMan
Not so silly if one does view Christmas as a religious, as well as civil, holiday.

I had just the opposite experience last Christmas. In almost every instance, my wish of Merry Christmas to store clerks, bank tellers, phone callers, and, yes, at work, among other places, yielded a muttered Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings.

What surprised me most was that many of these same people were members of the Church choir I play along with, or members of my church, and the generic greetings were issued at the Church. I live in a small predominantly Catholic/Christian town where many people know one another. I've been greeted with Happy Holidays and Happy Chanukah at work, and I respond in kind. Not unusual at all and celebrates with others the secular aspects of the season and the faiths of others.

But in church by other church members, a 'Happy Holidays' is a nice enough greeting but one that falls flat, especially at the Christmas Eve vigil (that one really surprised me). I do believe that is what he is trying to save.

11 posted on 07/13/2004 3:02:23 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: rrstar96
Right on. This is a major pet peeve of mine.

I first noticed it about 10 years ago when some ditz on a commercial said "I didn't have any idea what to get everyone for the holidays."

The "holidays?" To which "holiday" was she referring? Does it have a name? Flag Day, maybe? Or maybe she was out buying Bastille Day presents? Because the commercial ran during the second week or so of December, I assumed she was referring to Christmas, except that Christmas is a singular "holiday," and to refer to it as "the holidays" is factually incorrect.

If a store actually uses the dreaded "C" word in it's advertising, I will shop there for Christmas. Likewise, if a store uses all the PC euphemisms instead, I absolutely will not do any Christmas shopping there.

I buy Christmas presents, NOT holiday presents.

12 posted on 07/13/2004 3:02:50 PM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: rrstar96

About half the people I buy gifts for are Jewish. Happy Holidays is OK in my book.


13 posted on 07/13/2004 3:06:42 PM PDT by discostu (Gravity is a harsh mistress)
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To: Wil H
"I remember Christmas parties, Nativity Plays, Nativity displays, Christmas lights, public Christmas Trees, Caroling, and Christmas shopping when I was a kid. "

Sorry. You have to go and find refuge in places like 2% Christian Japan and 45% Christian South Korea these days to experience ANY of those wonderful, old reminscient things, out in the open, without apology or nervousness, on private AND public property, completely devoid of any trace of secular political correctness enforced by liberals, atheists, nihilists and other assorted scrooges.

14 posted on 07/13/2004 3:08:43 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: MineralMan

"I did not encounter a single store where employees did not return a "Merry Christmas" greeting last Christmas season."

Not surprised with your comment based upon your tagline.

Two immediate reponses:
1. You don't get out much, do you?
2. You don't have school age kids.

Yes, this is a Christian holiday and everything Christian is systematically being removed.

This is an open question but, you are aware of the removal of any references to 'Christian' in Christmas music, aren't you? We choose to celebrate Christmas music as we know, not the PC version.

Interesting, for one to say gleefully, 'Celebrate as you choose' and yet are either voting for or supporting with one's that are incrementally removing 'God', 'Christ', 'Jesus' and nativity scenes from society.

You're right, leave it alone, say, 'Merry Christmas' and let us celebrate as we choose.

I know you won't be offended, since you believe we all should celebrate as we choose so, I celebrate and choose to say 'God Bless you' to yourself.


15 posted on 07/13/2004 3:13:07 PM PDT by BluSky (“Don’t make me come down there.”)
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To: fortunecookie

I'm not a Christian in the believing sense of the word, but I was raised in Christian culture. I don't think it would be too much to ask for businesses that profit from it to acknowedge "the reason for the season", as they say. Heck, even those of us who don't particularly believe can appreciate the message of Christianity and share the sentiment at Christmas. Even the faithful Muslims I work with are more than willing to toss out a hearty "Merry Christmas" at that time of year.


16 posted on 07/13/2004 3:14:36 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: rrstar96
Many years ago when my husband and I lived in New Jersey, I remember reading about a town in NJ where they displayed a Nativity scene at the public square. A Jewish lady wanted it taken down because it was on public property. The town was debating on what to do when the town's newspaper published a letter by a Christian lady who wrote "Okay, fine take down the Nativity Scene, but no Christian should buy any Christmas presents from any Jewish-run business". The Nativity Scene remained.

Then we moved to upstate New York. A fellow in Saratoga was running a very successful auction. His wife, who is Jewish, and he, very publicly objected to a Christian painting, painted by a VietNam vet, hanging in the local public high school. The kids who attended the high school liked the painting and had no problem with it. The painting was removed, but they are no longer in business.

My husband and I are very strong supporters of the State of Israel, but will never understand liberal, Jewish Americans.

17 posted on 07/13/2004 3:22:50 PM PDT by maxwellp (Throw the U.N. in the garbage where it belongs.)
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To: -YYZ-

Exactly! That's what I was thinking, too. One of the heartiest "Merry Christmas'" I receive each year are from a Jewish co-worker in a different office. And he enjoys that I remember to greet him with a Happy Chanukah during Chanukah. And Happy Holidays and Seasons Greetings have a place, too, but not as replacements for Merry Christmas and all hints that the holiday has a religious aspect.


18 posted on 07/13/2004 3:28:17 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: maxwellp
"My husband and I are very strong supporters of the State of Israel, but will never understand liberal, Jewish Americans."

The Cross offends. Christ offends.

Face it. When He came down here as a humble, little baby, and then grew up into a man, He turned a lot of things topsy-turvey and absolutely upside down in the world. He came to really shake up things, which He has done a pretty good job of that now, for what, 2000 years?

It was predicted and even written about. It is simply being acted out as it has always been predicted. These people who are offended and do what they do, as sincere as they may be, are simply fulfilling their pre-destined roles, whether they even realize that or not.

19 posted on 07/13/2004 3:28:45 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: MineralMan; Wil H; Lady Eileen; HungarianGypsy; Mears; Blzbba; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; ...

Every year, I make a point of buying greeting cards where the word "Christmas" is used and avoiding the generic "season" and "holiday" varieties. This is something defenders of "Merry Christmas" may want to bear in mind.

May your days be merry and bright.....


20 posted on 07/14/2004 6:14:12 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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