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Red v. Blue Turns Into 'Fahrenheit' v. 'Passion'
NewsMax .com ^ | 7/13/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 07/13/2004 7:44:27 AM PDT by kattracks

When his so-called documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" first opened, Michael Moore said it was a "red-state movie."

But like much of his film's content, the claim doesn't square with the facts.

Moore was referring to 'the map' of the 2000 Bush v. Gore election results.

However, the "red" states went for Bush in 2000, while the "blue" states went for Al Gore (Oh well ... just add that to the list of inaccuracies spouted by Moore).

Now, the very same divide exists today between Moore's film "Fahrenheit 9/11" and Mel Gibson's runaway blockbuster 'The Passion of the Christ."

Data compiled by ticket sales tracker Nielsen EDI Inc., compared the 50 theaters around the country where each film had the highest gross.

"Red" staters have chosen "Passion" while "blue" staters went for Moore's schlockumentary, according to the New York Times.

Surveys by ticket Nielsen EDI showed that the top theaters for "Fahrenheit" have been in urban, traditionally Democratic strongholds, including Manhattan, Los Angeles, San Francisco and the Bay Area, Chicago and Boston.

Theaters with the most ticket sales for "Passion" were typically more suburban and far more widely dispersed, from Texas and New Mexico to Ohio, Florida and Orange County, California, the Times reported.

"The Passion," is the year's biggest money maker with a startling $609 million in worldwide ticket sales since it was released in February.

"Fahrenheit" - the most popular feature-length documentary ever - had sales in North America of $80.1 million in just three weeks.

For "The Passion," the rankings reflect the film's full run, the Times noted.

For "Fahrenheit," the data include only the first two weeks of ticket receipts.

Nielsen experts, however, said that there was little difference in the theater rankings for "Passion" between the first two weeks of release and the full run.



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1 posted on 07/13/2004 7:44:28 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

In the end "Passion" will still be waaaaaay ahead of "Fahren-crap 911."


2 posted on 07/13/2004 7:46:50 AM PDT by RockinRight
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To: kattracks
Have you noticed the new Lay's chips commercial? It shows an animated map of the U.S. with all the states starting red and turning blue. It's a patriotic-themed commercial, with lots of flag-waving.

Subliminal messages???

3 posted on 07/13/2004 7:47:41 AM PDT by georgiadevildog (Get to work. You aren't being paid to believe in the power of your dreams.)
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To: kattracks
When his so-called documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" first opened, Michael Moore said it was a "red-state movie."

I don't think Moore meant the 2000 election results map.

4 posted on 07/13/2004 7:49:57 AM PDT by kattracks
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I don't think Moore meant the 2000 election results map.

I think that's exactly what he was referring to. What else could it have been?

5 posted on 07/13/2004 7:51:23 AM PDT by jpl ("America's greatest chapter is still to be written, for the best is yet to come." - Ronald W. Reagan)
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Surveys by ticket Nielsen EDI showed that the top theaters for "Fahrenheit" have been in urban, traditionally Democratic strongholds, including Manhattan, Los Angeles, San Francisco and the Bay Area, Chicago and Boston.

Red states, as in commie/leftist.

6 posted on 07/13/2004 7:53:26 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: georgiadevildog

Hopefully they will turn blue, since that color is traditionally used to identify the incumbent, IIRC.


7 posted on 07/13/2004 7:54:57 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: jpl
i am guessing by red he meant commie.
though if i am misinterpreting the other persons post , i am sorry
8 posted on 07/13/2004 7:55:27 AM PDT by goldwaterlives
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To: kattracks

Ahh, I get it now.


9 posted on 07/13/2004 7:55:28 AM PDT by jpl ("America's greatest chapter is still to be written, for the best is yet to come." - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: kattracks

I've noticed all the returns for F911 on boxofficemojo are 'estimates' going back to June 25.

Can't these people count money--or are we being scammed?


10 posted on 07/13/2004 7:55:34 AM PDT by parcel_of_rogues
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To: RockinRight

F9/11 doesn't have a prayer of being as big as "Passion".. Passion is a film that will be bought and watched for generations.. F9/11 is electioneering propoganda that will be forgotten a few years from now at best.


11 posted on 07/13/2004 7:58:12 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: kattracks
"The Passion," is the year's biggest money maker with a startling $609 million in worldwide ticket sales since it was released in February.

"Fahrenheit" - the most popular feature-length documentary ever - had sales in North America of $80.1 million in just three weeks.

Class: In what way is "Fahrenheit" a "documentary" more than "The Passion?"

12 posted on 07/13/2004 8:01:46 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts.....)
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To: kattracks

The "red/blue state" thing is a myth to begin with.
The real map is the red/blue COUNTY-BY-COUNTY post election map. That's the one that shows that in every state, the Democrats controlled the parasite nests (cities) while the Republicans owned the great expanses populated by working, taxpaying traditional American families. Obviously, the states with the most and biggest parasite nests generally were "blue" states.


13 posted on 07/13/2004 8:02:40 AM PDT by Lancey Howard ("Dark Underside of American Culture" member since 1998)
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To: HamiltonJay

It is already being forgotten.
It's the 'Private Parts' phenomenom all over again - - big opening fueled by the star's fan base, then a quick dropoff.


14 posted on 07/13/2004 8:05:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard ("Dark Underside of American Culture" member since 1998)
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To: jpl

The commie dominated states? I never did agree with labeling our states red, it would have been more fitting switched around.


15 posted on 07/13/2004 8:08:00 AM PDT by kenth
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To: Brad Cloven
In what no way is "Fahrenheit" a "documentary"...
17 posted on 07/13/2004 8:09:39 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

When I saw the first F11 commericial, I noticed he tried to make the film look like a patriotic movie. The commercial gave nothing of the idea of the real message. I immediately thought he was trying to lure in conservatives - thinking they were going to see a patriotic movie - and then destroy their faith in the president.

Tied together with the "red state" comment, I get the impression his goal was to crack the conservative base - make a grand gesture towards the forwarding of socialism in America.

If that's correct, he's failed.


19 posted on 07/13/2004 8:12:54 AM PDT by I still care
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This year, they should be switched around. The red/blue color schemes had traditionally been blue = incumbent party, red = challenger party.


20 posted on 07/13/2004 8:13:40 AM PDT by Ghost in the Machine (Yes, I exist. No, I am not a virus.)
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