Posted on 07/12/2004 4:51:59 PM PDT by SJackson
I've been paging you a lot today, it seems.
Disappointing it took GWB four years to come up with this, better late than never (aka Kerry) I guess
About time the feds devolved control back to the states. The next step should be turning ownership of these collectivist federal forests to the states who, in turn, can sell the forests to private property owners.
In other good news -
This spring the eco-socialists lost 17 out of 17 court cases they filed to stop logging on our nation’s collectivist federal forests.
The court victories mark a turnabout from recent years, when so-called environmentalists succeeded in delaying and halting logging projects that many Western lawmakers said would have removed the trees and underbrush that fuels wildfires.
The Healthy Forests Restoration Act, passed by congress last year, trumped the whining and junk science used by environmental Marxists to stop logging. This no logging hysteria caused massive conflagrations in the federal forests, resulting in the loss of millions of acres of trees, the destruction of entire eco-systems, destroyed thousands of homes and buildings and covered the sky with massive pollution.
The law authorizes up to $760 million a year to treat up to 20 million acres of federal forests and grasslands at risk of catastrophic fire.
Mark Rey, the Agriculture Department undersecretary who directs U.S. forest policy, said, “Any month when you win 14 out of 14 cases is a good month.”
Judges are required by the new law to weigh the environmental consequences of inaction in considering tree-cutting projects.
Chris West, vice president of the American Forest Resource Council, a timber industry group, said “what the judges are recognizing - as Congress did overwhelmingly - is that we have a crisis situation facing our forests.”
The freedom hating eco-socialists are running from courtroom to courtroom, trying to find a judge who will ignore the law so the forest fires can get roaring again.
These people are not environmentalists. They’re socialists who don’t want to see anyone making a dime off these trees. They’d rather see the forests burn to the ground than see jobs created and products produced.
Sounds like a great opportunity for California to commit suicide faster than ever.
IMO, it's then a state forest, not a national forest. Give the whole thing to the state if they are going to run it, and let them pay to maintain it. Why should an out of state taxpayer pay for a forest they have no stake in?
The states, I remember them. Took four years to give them a voice. There's a federal role here, but it's secondary. One day we'll recognize that the enviornmentalists are the ones who spend their time there, earning a living, ever hunting and fishing, not the Sierra Club dayhikers.
Well, you get to visit. But why sould anyone pay for a forest, they're at best income generators, otherwise, well, leave them alone.
>A terrible idea, why should Alaska have a say in what >happens to their trees, they're my trees too. Their oil >too.
So can I pick the color you paint your house? I'd love to see it in a pretty paisley pink.
And I thought states' rights were dead...
not dead, on life support. Sometimes they get it right.
Ideally there would be almost no 'federal' land except for military bases. The public property within the state belongs to the people of the state, not some overreaching power that can say "this is mine" because of their size.
Rick
FMCDH(BITS)
That's really a drop in the bucket, but having the Feds back off at all is remarkable.
Depends on the deal. In Alaska the state got relatively next to no land at all. Some state.
I am saying that these forests have costs. They usually have roads. They have fire prevention. Maybe even rescue. Some garbage collection. No telling what all they have. And I am saying that if it's a national forest, then it makes sense not only for the national gubmint to pay for it, but also for the national gubmint to run it. If the state is gonna run it, far as I am concerned, that's a state forest that I as a voter have no stake in, no influence, and therefore, shouldn't pay a red cent for it. If GWB wants to make em state forests, he should do so.
Well... Don't just stick that out there for all of us to wonder what you mean by that! Explain that suicidal statement. I know it makes you weary, but lots of FReepers and Lurkers need to understand the meaning of such astute comments!!!
FMCDH(BITS)
You touch on an interesting issue. I’ll give fire roads a pass, though that’s also a state issue. Forest roads, we lease the forests for harvest, then spend federal money to build the roads to take out the timber, otherwise the “bid” wouldn’t be economic.
That’s nuts. If the harvest is economic, let the forest product companies build the roads. If they won’t bid enough, leave the forest alone, the Sierra Club will be happy and the owls will have a place to live. Same goes for grazing lands. It’s a state issue, with some federal interests, but neither are particularly efficient property managers from an economic perspective.
NO!!! It's an announcement of FREEDOM from pure, undulterated, un-needed, undesirable FEDERAL INTRUSION & INTERVENTION!!!
President Bush... You've made me more proud of you than I expected to be by your selection of the best Ag secretary since Ronald Reagan appointed James Watt as secretary of interior! And your political courage of doing this in the throws of a heated race for re-election shows true grit!!!
BRAVO!!! ENCORE!!!
STUFF GANG-GREEN!!!
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