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Manila to Withdraw from Iraq 'As Soon as Possible' (“In response to your request…”)
Reuters via Yahoo! ^ | 7/12/04

Posted on 07/12/2004 2:30:46 PM PDT by dead

DUBAI (Reuters) - The Philippines will withdraw its forces from Iraq (news - web sites) "as soon as possible," Philippine Deputy Foreign Minister Rafael Seguis said on Monday in a statement he read out on al Jazeera television.

"In response to your request, the Philippines ... will withdraw its humanitarian forces as soon as possible," Seguis said according to al Jazeera's Arabic translation of his remarks. His statement was addressed to the group which is holding a Filipino driver hostage.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: appeasers; cowards; enablers; filipinohostage; gutless; ira; iraq; peacekeepers; philippines; quitters; sadsadday; shameful; yellow
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To: dead

This is an incredible story. That's an entire country brought to its knees by a guy with a knife and a grainy home video. I have to call B.S. on this one. When did the Phillipinos ever give in to Abu Sayyaf? They've lost people to beheadings in the past. This is not exactly new territory for them and would send a suicidal message to Abu Sayyaf...


41 posted on 07/12/2004 4:56:27 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: dead

What counts, I suppose, is who is standing at the end. There is a lot of importance to being the one left standing at the end.


42 posted on 07/12/2004 5:06:36 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: dead

The Phillipines has spained on us.


43 posted on 07/12/2004 5:09:35 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: pogo101

"You've gotta be kidding me."

I worked with a fellow from the Philippines. During one of the "rebellions", I saw footage
of the rebels being lead out of their barracks. The loyal government troops and the
rebels were yukking it up on camera.

The next day I asked my Phillipino co-worker why these rebels seemed to be so happy.
I said "If someone in this country tried to overthrow the government, they'd probably
be lucky to keep their head."

The Philippino said "well, the conflict is over; everyone might as well be happy!".

Shaking my head, I remembered Paul Harvey's tagline: "It is NOT one world."

Over the years, I've gotten the feeling that there are just a few countries/cultures
that have the gumption to say "we'll die before we let you win".
And sadly, the Philippines (aside from all their other great qualities)
just ain't one of them.
A sad note, given the toughness of the Philippino Socuts and the underground fighters
during WWII.


44 posted on 07/12/2004 5:11:46 PM PDT by VOA
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To: dead

I'm getting fed up with these small groups organizing protests to change government direction.

I've got no problem with the gazillions who showed up in Hong Kong for freedom.


45 posted on 07/12/2004 5:20:17 PM PDT by The Raven (Fair and Balanced)
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To: dead
Manila to Withdraw from Iraq 'As Soon as Possible' (“In response to your request…”)

Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.

You can run, but you can't hide, you spineless sacks of shit.

46 posted on 07/12/2004 5:41:33 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: Recovering Hermit

this makes me so angry. don't they know they are risking many many more lives by making this decision?


47 posted on 07/12/2004 5:55:05 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/farenheight_911.htm)
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To: doug from upland
Fifty years from now, there may well be a debate on why Michael Moore was not hung for treason.

We hope. There could also be debate on how General Secretary M. Moore got his start. < / vomit >

48 posted on 07/12/2004 6:07:05 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero- Pat Tillman)
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To: SandyInSeattle

They do not have any value system.


49 posted on 07/12/2004 7:03:03 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Which United States are you talking about, the one of the greatest generation that would take no bull$hite from anyone and go and fight everybodies battles including our own or the current United States with a youth population who don't even know of the sacrifices our fathers made in places such as Manassas, San Juan, Ardennes Forest, Pearl Harbor, Bataan, Battle of the Bulge, Inchon or Da Nang!!

I'm ascared for our future. Make me a current believer.


50 posted on 07/12/2004 7:11:32 PM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: jriemer

I, too, am very disappointed to hear this news, especially since it sounded like Arroyo was singing a different tune. The PI may have an unfortunate strain of communism throughout its islands, but also has a strong martial culture. I am dumbfounded that they are backing down from this fight.

I am also disappointed in people painting pinoys with such a broad brush on this thread- a lot of us DO love the US and a lot DID learn something from the Philippines' sometimes tortured, but special relationship with the US. Unfortunately for the PI, I think that most of the smart ones, like my family, moved here! ;)


51 posted on 07/12/2004 7:14:53 PM PDT by turbojugend
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To: Marfoe
The only thing that is keeping me from screaming right now is the slightest chance that once the truck driver is released they will say 'screw you' and send in a couple thousand troops to hunt down these animals.

After living in the Philippines now for 2 years I tell you not to hold your breath. The Philippine Government is a joke. The Philippine military is a joke. The Philippines is a third world country and there's good reasons for it. This is just another example of bad policy on their part.

52 posted on 07/12/2004 7:16:08 PM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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Churches around the predominantly Roman Catholic country have held special masses to pray for dela Cruz, but protests have been small, with many seeming to recognize the government faces a tough choice.

Interesting. Sounds like the government is doing this despite a lack of popular pressure.

In countries where the people are poorly educated, I imagine it is tough to get your voters to understand why you never give in to the demands of hostage takers.

53 posted on 07/12/2004 8:32:31 PM PDT by twgiles
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

DEog, a government be so ignorant because you don't have a clue.

If you understand what happened in Spain you would have done your homework and shut your pie hole.


54 posted on 07/12/2004 8:45:44 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: Napoleon Solo

The current generation is the finest bunch of youn men we have ever cranked out. Our volunteer forces are hanging with the best!!

The only difference between the ones you speak of and the young ones is that the current crop volunteered.


55 posted on 07/12/2004 8:55:54 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: dead
this isn't going to do them any good; the phillipines is a
hotbed of al quaeda activity. caving into terrorists in
iraq is guaranteed to beget more and more brazen terrorism
at home.

this is not a good day to be the rest of the phillipino
people.
56 posted on 07/12/2004 9:15:38 PM PDT by smonk
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To: Napoleon Solo
Make me a current believer.

I kinda thought that too, until I saw footage of the kids who cut through Saddam's bad boys like the proverbial crap through a goose.

Never been so proud. "The American soldier is weak and easily discouraged, he will not stand and fight." Lots of folks have said that over the years. The unlucky ones learned better. The real lucky ones lived to tell about it.

57 posted on 07/12/2004 9:24:23 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: NJ_gent; doug from upland

Makes sense.

That would turn the tide.


58 posted on 07/12/2004 11:45:36 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro
the phillipino government is now denying this . . . it's posted in another thread.

pretty tough to figure out what the hell is going on.

59 posted on 07/13/2004 12:02:58 AM PDT by smonk
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To: turbojugend
Things are looking worse for PI.

"The Al-Qaeda-linked Jemaah Islamiyah terror group is using Filipino Muslim rebels to train replacements for members arrested after the Bali bombings, according to a report released Tuesday. Graduates from camps in the southern Philippines have revitalised JI ranks at home in Indonesia, launched terror attacks in the Philippines itself and breathed new life into the Abu Sayyaf kidnap-for-ransom group, says the Brussels-based International Crisis Group (ICG) think-tank." Jemaah Islamiyah training terrorists in RP 7/12/04

60 posted on 07/13/2004 4:46:18 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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