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Feminizing the Nation's Boys
Concerned Women for America ^ | 5/21/2004 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 07/12/2004 1:50:33 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tailgunner Joe

This is such drivel. Our nation is too feminized as it is. We as a nation has spent so much time exploring its "softer side"; we've forgotten how to be hard. Do you think, for example, if Al Qaeda had attacked Ancient Sparta or any part of Ancient Greece, or Ancient Rome, or even World War II America, there would be all this naval-gazing, hand-wringing, or discussions about how "it's all our fault?" I think not.


61 posted on 07/12/2004 3:05:09 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: backtothestreets

france has alot of flowers right???need to have a good gila suit to hold flowers i suppose.


62 posted on 07/12/2004 3:05:47 PM PDT by Docbarleypop (Navy Doc)
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To: luckystarmom
"How do mothers raise boys to be young men?"

I've always heard it said, if there isn't a daddy in the home serving as the proper role model, get some other family member or a family friend to spend time with your son. But if there is a daddy in the home, it's his responsibility to be the role model.

63 posted on 07/12/2004 3:06:13 PM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: Tailgunner Joe
We are familiar with the radical feminists' attempts to teach girls to act like the guys.

Since we're on the subject, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the radical femizons for raising a generation of utterly unattractive females:  not so much physically but mentally unattractive.

Seriously, if I want to date someone who thinks and behaves like a guy, I'd date a guy.

64 posted on 07/12/2004 3:14:15 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: annyokie

Actually, my daughter is the one that likes to build things. We just moved to a new house. My husband took down our old swingset, and my daughter was the one that helped the whole time. My son and my other daughter got bored helping.

I'm one of those girls that does have spatial handling. I have a degree in engineering, so I'm pretty handy.


65 posted on 07/12/2004 3:16:10 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Bump 4 book mark


66 posted on 07/12/2004 3:16:23 PM PDT by The SISU kid (I'm the swizzle stick in the cocktail of life)
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To: annyokie
I seldom reply on threads like these, but always read them with the same fascination some folks have with rubber-necking highway accidents, due to the rigid stereotypes that so often get hyped. It's good to see a thread with common sense being posted early on. Kids should be let to do what they naturally do, and not have agendas from either side foisted on them.

As a very young girl, I did not like to play with dolls and tea sets. I don't even remember this, but the first time I received a baby doll from a relative at Christmas, I tossed it in anger at the offending relative, with remarkable accuracy, having hoped for something more "outdoorsy". When I learned from adults that the purpose of all that "fru-fru stuff" was to prepare girls for eventual motherhood, I relaxed, because I knew even then that motherhood wasn't to be for me. Thank God my immediate family didn't "push it". They were somewhat ahead of their time (and the "feminist movement") in that respect.

Regarding "spatial abilities" being unique to boys, well that's rubbish too, of course. As is the closely related myth of all "tomboy" girls being dykes-in-training. My (very male) husband has been giving me tools for all of our 18 years of marriage. I still occasionally have to show him which way a wrench gets turned, since he grew up with landlords who always had those things taken care of, but he is learning. I need him to take care of the financial details of our life, as math is not, and has never been, my forte. Our unique abilities complement each other. There is a pot for every lid and a lid for every pot, as they say.

67 posted on 07/12/2004 3:17:34 PM PDT by phroebe
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To: CajunConservative

No relatives around we're in California, and they are in Texas.

We did Cub Scouts for awhile, but his den got disbanded.

I think I'll get him in Boy Scouts when he's in middle school (next year).

He's not like my brothers. He's more like my husband. Neither of them like sports. They are into computers.


68 posted on 07/12/2004 3:18:13 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Betis70



Caution

Do not put light oil in the barrel of an air rifle

[Unless you want more fps]





69 posted on 07/12/2004 3:20:17 PM PDT by devolve (---------------- [--------------Hello from Sunny South Florida-------------)
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To: annyokie

How many of the real feminist know about fixing an engine, or know anything technical?

Most of the feminist I know of are into literature and other liberal arts.

I'm a SAHM and I have a degree in engineering. I'm a very technical person (that's why I'm on the computer way tooooo much). I don't know of many feminists that are into science and technology.


70 posted on 07/12/2004 3:20:26 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: annyokie

My daughter has a speech disorder. She only started talking at about 5 1/2 (she's almost 8 now).

When she was about 3 or 4, we went to McDonald's with another family. The little boy was bugging my daughter. I told him to stop bothering her because she couldn't tell him to leave her alone.

I warned him that if he didn't stop, she would either hit him or bite him and she wouldn't get in trouble for it.

I warned him, and I figure that she was protecting herself from being pushed around at a McDonald's playground. It was her way of communicating.


71 posted on 07/12/2004 3:23:44 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Biblebelter

I received a sexist upbringing, but I no longer follow it. I've been in New York too long. I have cussed out people like that, so that their ears turned red. (And a lot of those people were black, so that took some doing!) When I taught college, I told my students that on the street, I did not talk the same way I did in the classroom. Dirtbags see restraint as a sign of weakness.


72 posted on 07/12/2004 3:27:00 PM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: netmilsmom

My son knows why dad is not around much. My husband lost his job last December, and started a new one in January. I've been the one explaining that it is much better to have Dad working hard than to not have a job at all. We continually say prayers of thanks that Dad has a job.

My husband also takes my son with him as much as possible when he has to run errands on the weekend. We also let my son stay up late during the summer so that he has some time with Dad.

I guess that is one of the biggest lessons my son will ever learn: to work hard so that there is a mom at home to take care of the kids.


73 posted on 07/12/2004 3:30:49 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: phroebe

Oh, don't get harsh.

I never liked dolls until I was advancing into puberty. Then I would set up my dolls (that I had ignored until then) around my tea table that my lovely grandpa had repainted for me.


I always wanted to have children and be a Mrs. Cleaver type. I have always hated working (and I have had very aggressive jobs.) I like being home. I like cooking. I like knitting. I can take care of myself, but for what purpose? I'd rather take care of my children and my husband.

I'm not making any judgements about peoples life choices. Indeed, I am pleased that you realized motherhood was not for you.


74 posted on 07/12/2004 3:31:10 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Gramsci and his heirs in the Frankfurt School continue to go underestimated.


75 posted on 07/12/2004 3:32:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: luckystarmom

He needs more of a mental type activity then from the sounds of things is he more of a thinker? What about models or some hands on hobby like that? I would let him explore different activities that could interest him and go from there. Work with his natural inclinations as far as activities go.


76 posted on 07/12/2004 3:34:12 PM PDT by CajunConservative (FLUSH THE JOHNS IN NOVEMBER!!! We don't need no girly men.)
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To: RonF

That is the problem with Boy Scouts (even Cub Scouts). The den disbanded, and they needed another den leader. Besides my son I have twin girls. I'm already a Brownie leader. I can't be active in both girl and boy scouts, so we stopped doing Cub Scouts.

When the girls are old enough to stay at home by themselves, then it might be easier to do Boy Scouts.


77 posted on 07/12/2004 3:35:03 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

Why are you so defensive? Of course women have spatial skills.

I was a real hard ass feminist many years ago and I knew a LOT of girls (gad! the word!) who could fix an engine or their vacuum cleaner.

Hang me now. I have an MBA.


78 posted on 07/12/2004 3:35:51 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: annyokie

You know feminists that are technical?

Like I said, most of the feminists that I know of are not technical.

Most of the technical women that I know of are very feminine republican women. Maybe because I went to college with most of the technical women, and I went to Texas A&M 20 years ago, and most everyone was
pretty darn conservative.

Now, I'm in California and the feminists are those up in Beserkley doing their women studies. They have a hard time with calculus or chemistry.


79 posted on 07/12/2004 3:41:52 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: annyokie

?? I don't think I was being harsh or accusing you of being judgmental; in fact, I thought you were one of the common-sense voices, and I was agreeing with your sentiments while realizing we have both made different choices in life! ;-)


80 posted on 07/12/2004 3:42:41 PM PDT by phroebe
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