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1 posted on 07/12/2004 6:34:34 AM PDT by SmithPatterson
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To: SmithPatterson

McCain doesn oppose the Marriage Protection Amendment. So far he has not taken a position on it.


2 posted on 07/12/2004 6:48:16 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: SmithPatterson

Who cares? The positions of Arnold, Guiliani and Pataki aren't close to a majority of Republicans nationwide. Unless these gentlemen get up there and deliver rip-roaring speeches in favor of abortion and gay marriage (highly unlikely), what they say will make little practical difference.


3 posted on 07/12/2004 6:48:28 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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Maybe Mr. Weyrich should remember the 1992 convention when Pat Buchanan let loose with his speech. I was embarrassed by that speech as were thousands of other conservatives.

Why don't we just tell all the moderates to take a hike and have an inclusive Republican Conservative Party and lose all the elections so people like this can continues to whine we are losing and don't understand why. (sarcasm)

You don't put on a party convention for the rank and file -- you put it on to capture votes of that mushy middle. Would I prefer that we were all Conservative in the Republican Party -- you can take that to the bank. Do I want to win every election -- absolutely. Right now those two don't go together thanks to a bunch of states with non-conservative values. That means in the general election you have to got to have moderates go vote and be in the party to ask others to vote. Will not turn my back on moderates when we need their votes so desparately to keep two extremely liberal lawyer RATs out of the WH. Those two make our moderates look conservative when comparing their voting records.

Some of these conservative writers need to put a zipper on their lips and keyboard until the election and just get out and get conservatives elected across the Country and re-elect Bush-Cheney '04.

When you have people like Rudy and Arnold in your Party, you need to spotlight them to bring in votes. I am very comfortable with both of them speaking. Rudy is a fantastic speaker -- heard him this spring.

We are not a one issue party and we are certainly not an exclusive party as much as Weyrich and some others want to make it so. I want to register as many new Republicans as we can to go vote -- they need to have one overall agenda and that is defense and homeland security which go hand and hand.

For social issues, you change hearts one at a time and we are winning in the hearts of the American people but you don't do it by shoving it down their throats. You do it by individual contact. Showcasing on the national stage some of our more outspoken conservatives plays to the base but we need to win this national election for the security of our Country which triumps social issues IMHO. Without national security, we don't have to worry about social issues, some socialist will take care of that for us.

Enough of my mini rant for this morning -- have some other things to get done -- local House Rep needs reelected and RATs are after him big time because he stands up for Conservative values.


4 posted on 07/12/2004 6:56:30 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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"Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Regards, Ivan

6 posted on 07/12/2004 7:07:12 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can change the world.)
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"since about a third of the Catholic Bishops have taken the position that he should not present himself for Holy Communion "

Should Catholics who support the RINOs on the platform or Specter also not present themselves for Communion?

7 posted on 07/12/2004 7:24:50 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all Things Truth Beareth Away the Victory")
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To: SmithPatterson
Let's get some conservatives who will get the ordinary voters excited about the ticket!

Hmmm...several here disagree.

I happen to think it's a good article and that Bush needs to fire up his CORE to win, not the center.

We'll see who is right the day after the election.

11 posted on 07/12/2004 4:48:19 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: SmithPatterson

" Often I have become known as a cheerleader for Bush-Cheney "

Oh really.
Paul Weyrich routinely writes " this is the last straw " columns where he threatens President Bush that conservatives will stay home in November.


12 posted on 07/12/2004 4:52:25 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: SmithPatterson; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...

Moderate = babykilling gun grabbers. Adultery and sexual misconduct issues plague many of them as well. But then again, whose convention is it, anyway?


13 posted on 07/12/2004 5:00:33 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; annalex; Annie03; Antoninus; ...
Does Mehlman think he is going to win over the Catholic vote by highlighting dissenting Catholics? Don't show me these polls that say that Catholics are no different than other voters when it comes abortion and marriage -- the Catholics in these polls do not necessarily attend Mass frequently. "Catholics" who give themselves the label are one thing; Catholics who take their Church seriously are another matter.

If Bush gets the vast majority of votes from serious Catholics, he wins. To do that, a Henry Hyde or Rick Santorum would need to assure serious Catholics that Bush is where they are and Kerry is absolutely in the opposite camp. You won't get that from the presently constituted line-up at the Convention.

For all their brilliance, Mehlman and Karl Rove (who no doubt vetted this line-up) have made a very serious mistake with this Convention's line-up.

It is one that the rank and file should not tolerate. If the President is embarrassed to be seen with conservatives at the Convention, maybe conservatives will be embarrassed to be seen with the President on Election Day.

President Bush, are you listening?

Ping. (As usual, if you would like to be added to or removed from my "conservative Catholics" ping list, please send me a FReepmail. Please note that this is occasionally a high volume ping list and some of my ping posts are long.)

16 posted on 07/12/2004 7:43:34 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic - -without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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I understand the need for the President to attract swing independent voters to the ticket.

Then STFU. This is a critical election and desperate times for our country. Kerry would be WORSE than Clinton. The speakers are all about helping Bush appeal to moderate voters which will sway this election in November.

18 posted on 07/12/2004 8:17:28 PM PDT by Tamzee (Flush the Johns before they flood the White House!)
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To: SmithPatterson

Good grief. What a whiner. If you knew that the election was going to be decided by about 6-10% of the populace who occupy the middle -- what would be the wise thing to do at your convention? Try to shove and "agenda" down people's throats? Preach to the choir? I thought that was what liberals and activist judges did?


20 posted on 07/12/2004 8:26:15 PM PDT by Sunsong (John Kerry, who rose without a trace, with no accomplishments but his own advancement)
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To: SmithPatterson

Does Weyrich hear himself? The words hateful, spiteful, mean, narrowminded, petty and childish spring to mind.


24 posted on 07/12/2004 8:56:18 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: SmithPatterson

"MODERATE" will get Kerry elected.


37 posted on 07/12/2004 10:05:07 PM PDT by paleocon patriarch (Rule One: -"The cover-up is worse than the event." Rule Two: "No one ever remembers the first rule.)
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To: SmithPatterson

Since this is a Republican convention it seems to me that all aspects of the party would be included.


41 posted on 07/12/2004 10:13:10 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about? Become a monthly donor and find out!!!)
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To: SmithPatterson

Mehlman will be leading Bush-Cheny down to defeat.

Bush has demonstrated an incomparable lack of good judgement on any number of issues, especially when selecting "advisors"

No Republican will ever be elected to office by pandering to the left. He won't get liberal votes (and these four RINOs are "liberals", not "moderates" - Bush is a "moderate") and he will erode his conservative base enough to loose enough of them to be defeated.

These four had better be very careful what they say, and they had better be balanced with a strong slate of conservative speakers.


71 posted on 07/13/2004 11:13:48 AM PDT by ZULU (Democrats = Evil; Republicans = Stupid)
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To: SmithPatterson

So much for the "no liberal media" line...


93 posted on 07/15/2004 4:48:57 PM PDT by FalconAZ2003 ("He whose ranks are united in purpose will be victorious" -- Sun Tzu)
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