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Conservatives crucial to Bush's re-election restive about Iraq war
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 11, 2004 | SCOTT LINDLAW

Posted on 07/11/2004 12:03:02 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Conservatives, the backbone of Bush's political base, are increasingly uneasy about the Iraq conflict and the steady drumbeat of violence in postwar Iraq, Halper and some of his fellow Republicans say. The conservatives' anxiety was fueled by the Abu Ghraib prisoner-abuse scandal and has not abated with the transfer of political power to the interim Iraqi government.

Some Republicans fear angry conservatives will stay home in November, undercutting Bush's re-election bid.

"I don't think there's any question that there is growing restiveness in the Republican base about this war," said Halper, the co-author of a new book, "America Alone: The Neoconservatives and the Global Order."

Another administration official involved in Bush's re-election effort has voiced concern that angry conservatives will sit out the election.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baloney; conservativemybutt; conservatives; conservativevote; falsefront; fauxconservatives; fraud; gwb2004; justsellinghisbook; lies; mediamythmaking; mispresentative; mobytechnique; totalbs
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To: lentulusgracchus
I'm supposed to get excited about what I see? Where ARE the conservatives? Not at the party, that's for sure.

You're right. We really need to vote for Kerry. Higher taxes, socialized medicine, pullout in Iraq, re-decimate the military for everything except U.N. social programs - that's the ticket! THEN everyone will see that the GOP is the way to go!

121 posted on 07/11/2004 7:12:15 PM PDT by Amelia (Can I turn off the sarcasm now?)
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To: Texasforever

Hey Texass. Are ya hear to cause trouble or just give us a good laugh? I hope its the latter.


122 posted on 07/11/2004 7:16:49 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: k2blader
You mean you don't know who the terrorists are rooting for?

Don't you know what happened in Spain?


123 posted on 07/11/2004 7:18:17 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Reagan Man
Hey Texass. Are ya hear to cause trouble or just give us a good laugh? I hope its the latter.

Just to keep you honest. You need a lot of help sometimes.

124 posted on 07/11/2004 7:20:03 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: FairOpinion
RE: "McClintock refused to drop out, almost throwing the election to Bustamante."

Say what?

Schwarzenegger .......3,850,982 48.7%

Bustamante ...........2,504,640 31.7%

McClintock ...........1,053,968 13.4%

Camejo ............... 218,852 2.8%

Relax, in 1972 Nixon had job approval ratings under fifty percent, his rating for handling the war was thirty-something percent. His opponent was a far better man and American than John Kerry. Millions on the left hated Nixon. The mainstream media hated him, too. And the mainstream media was virtually all there was in those days.

Nixon won sixty percent of the popular vote and all states except one. His electoral victory was 520 to 17. President Bush won't get that many votes but IMO it won't be close. The VP selection didn't even get a dead-cat bounce for Kerry.

BTW, I cannot prove it but I swear I believe that the California Republican Party is run by Democrat moles.

Many folks believe that Gov. Swarzenegger could deliver California to President Bush. Some are asking how hard will he try?

125 posted on 07/11/2004 7:22:57 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: Texasforever
>>>Just to keep you honest. You need a lot of help sometimes.

That's not funny. Maybe worth a chuckle. No more.

Being from Bush country, thought you'd know that honesty is the best policy. Obviously something you don't have in common with the President. That's too bad.

126 posted on 07/11/2004 7:33:59 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: FairOpinion
90% to 95% of conservatives and Republicans will vote for President Bush. Liberals are delusional when they wish that there will be a problem between the President and his conservative base.

It is noteworthy to understand and resign to the fact that there is 5% of conservatives who are Buchaninite bitter losers. We should give up on those guys because we cannot change them.

127 posted on 07/11/2004 7:36:49 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: FairOpinion

Why do you have such little confidence in President Bush? I think he'll win handily, especially if he leans conservative on domestic issues.

I also think most Americans are intelligent enough to distinguish between a vote for a political candidate and open support for filth who would gladly slit the throats of airline stewardesses in the name of Allah.


128 posted on 07/11/2004 7:38:20 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
>>>Many folks believe that Gov. Swarzenegger could deliver California to President Bush. Some are asking how hard will he try?

I hear that GovRino won't be campaigning much for the President. He wants to show that he's above politics. Also, its been reported that Arnie wanted to attend the Democratic National Covention, in a spirit of non-partisanship. That's what I call real leadership. NOT! LOL

129 posted on 07/11/2004 7:40:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Dear Joe

I am talking to you from experience. I was born and raised in Lebanon during the civil war. As a Lebanese Christian I know who the Muslim terrorists are and what do they want to do for non-Muslim, even to Muslims who do not want to go to live in their seventh century society. They hate us regardless we are in Iraq and the Middle East or we are not. Please remember that we were not in Iraq or in Afghanistan when they attacked us on September 11 2001. They want to destroy us and kill all of us, period. We must be in the Middle East with a heavy military presence and we must destroy them. There is no other way to do it.

This is the most important election of our life time because it is a choice between destroying those who want to annihilate us and everything we stand for, or we can just sit here and wait for them to abolish our civilization. I know for a fact that President Bush wants to destroy the Islamic terrorist and fundamentalist movement, John Kerry will not do it because he is not willing to take the hard way.

Please my friend go and vote for President Bush and ask you friends and family to do so.

God bless you, and God bless America.

130 posted on 07/11/2004 8:02:30 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: applemac_g4
Dear applemac-g4

I am talking to you from experience. I was born and raised in Lebanon during the civil war. As a Lebanese Christian I know who the Muslim terrorists are and what do they want to do for non-Muslim, even to Muslims who do not want to go to live in their seventh century society. They hate us regardless we are in Iraq and the Middle East or we are not. Please remember that we were not in Iraq or in Afghanistan when they attacked us on September 11 2001. They want to destroy us and kill all of us, period. We must be in the Middle East with a heavy military presence and we must destroy them. There is no other way to do it.

This is the most important election of our life time because it is a choice between destroying those who want to annihilate us and everything we stand for, or we can just sit here and wait for them to abolish our civilization. I know for a fact that President Bush wants to destroy the Islamic terrorist and fundamentalist movement, John Kerry will not do it because he is not willing to take the hard way.

Please my friend go and vote for President Bush and ask you friends and family to do so.

God bless you, and God bless America.

131 posted on 07/11/2004 8:03:53 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
Ditto. Do these people who treat conservatives like an annoying fringe forget 1994, when it was a large conservative turnout that gave Republicans control of Congress for the first time in decades?

Of course they do! All conservatives do is rain on the spending orgy that the rest of official Washington heartily endorses (including those from the back-stabbing wing of the Republican party). Conservatives are an annoyance to these people, since we in theory are standing in the way of the runaway growth of the federal government. Except we're more like a speed bump than a barrier.

132 posted on 07/11/2004 8:12:06 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Godspeed, President Reagan.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
the handicappers are now adding North Carolina, Louisiana, Arkansas, and (as always) Florida.

I believe that the "South" will come thru for GWB including Florida.

It's really important that the Governator pull a rabbit out of a hat out on the Left Coast this year.

Maybe in a landslide but that would mean GWB would be carrying a lot of other states he had not been expected to carry.

The way it looks now, the battle will be fought here in the Midwest.

133 posted on 07/11/2004 9:15:25 PM PDT by Missouri
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To: Soul Seeker
Any acknowledgement for the positives he has accomplished? No. To cite his achievements would weaken the attempts to portray him in an ill light.

Sorry, my posts aren't subject to an equal time rule.

134 posted on 07/11/2004 9:25:49 PM PDT by primeval patriot (I'll stay in cowtown, I'll stick around)
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To: FairOpinion
I will never be able to understand why anyone would want Kerry or Gore EVER, but especially with the shape things are in now.

I'll take a few messy months (like we have right now in Iraq), with President Bush over anything at all with the other party.

At least we know the mess is well on the way to being a really big success! The impact of the Bush presidency will be felt for many, many years to come, not just here at home, but across the world.

It will be an impressive legacy.
135 posted on 07/11/2004 10:48:04 PM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: jveritas

Jveritas,

I don't disagree with your strategic view of the situation and I have no illusions about who they are, what they want, and what it will take to stop them.

I don't believe, however, that GW Bush shares your view. What I think he and the neocons have decided - and what I suspect is the keystone to their entire middle east strategy - is to terraform Iraq into a little America. "If" they say to themselves "we simply make Iraq into a prosperous democracy, these people will turn their backs on Islam and embrace our way of life when they see how good it is."

I don't believe that they have a plan B because (naively) they haven't even considered that such a strategy COULD fail.

I suspect it will. Tell me - if someone told you that you could be more prosperous, would you turn your back on your religion just to make it happen (yes, I know many Americans would. I suspect you - and many non-American Christians would not.)?


136 posted on 07/11/2004 10:48:04 PM PDT by applemac_g4
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To: primeval patriot

And my assessment of the President isn't confined to only his weaknesses with complete disregard to his accomplishments.


137 posted on 07/12/2004 7:20:27 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Reagan Man
I don't agree with Bush on his immigration reform policy, but I don't think he sold out to anyone. Which is basically what you're saying.

Well, either he sold out Texas and the conservatives, OR he is acting in class solidarity with his own, i.e. snotty white-shoed, big-rich New England yachtsmen sporting around on Martha's Vineyard and the islands of the New England coast with fifth-generation robber-baron money that their great-greats ripped off all the hardscrabble dirt farmers who were driven off the land during the 19th and 20th centuries by manipulated, ripoff "markets" owned by said robber barons........

Can't have it all ways, hand. Which paradigm is correct? Brush-busting stalwart Texas rancher and straight shooter who's just looking out for the Reagan legacy and the country's best interest, or solipsistic rich-boy New England legacy trash who lives life off a 140-year-old silver canape' plate?

Reaganism and Americanism, or Social Darwinism?

138 posted on 07/12/2004 7:30:09 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Honi soit qui mal y pense.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

GWBush is a good man and is doing a good job as President under extremely difficult conditions. His prosecution of the WoT has been remarkable. He's a man of integrity, courage and determination. And Bush is a man of faith. Roll it all together and you have a strong leader and a man who loves his country.


139 posted on 07/12/2004 7:37:49 AM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Amelia

Yes, dear.


140 posted on 07/12/2004 7:41:40 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Honi soit qui mal y pense.)
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