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Some Key Conservatives Uneasy About Bush
The Herald (Miami) ^ | Jul. 11, 2004 | SCOTT LINDLAW

Posted on 07/11/2004 10:48:58 AM PDT by Military Chick

Some Key Conservatives Uneasy About Bush

SCOTT LINDLAW Associated Press

WASHINGTON - When an influential group of conservatives gathers in downtown Washington each week, they often get a political pep talk from a senior Bush administration official or campaign aide. They don't expect a fellow Republican to deliver a blistering critique of President Bush's handling of the Iraq war.

But nearly 150 conservatives listened in silence recently as a veteran of the Nixon, Ford and Reagan administrations ticked off a litany of missteps in Iraq by the Bush White House.

"This war is not going well," said Stefan Halper, a deputy assistant secretary of state under President Reagan.

"It's costing us a lot of money, isolating us from our allies and friends," said Halper, who gave $1,000 to George W. Bush's campaign and more than $83,000 to other GOP causes in 2000. "This is not the cakewalk the neoconservatives predicted. We were not greeted with flowers in the streets."

Conservatives, the backbone of Bush's political base, are increasingly uneasy about the Iraq conflict and the steady drumbeat of violence in postwar Iraq, Halper and some of his fellow Republicans say. The conservatives' anxiety was fueled by the Abu Ghraib prisoner-abuse scandal and has not abated with the transfer of political power to the interim Iraqi government.

Some Republicans fear angry conservatives will stay home in November, undercutting Bush's re-election bid.

"I don't think there's any question that there is growing restiveness in the Republican base about this war," said Halper, the co-author of a new book, "America Alone: The Neoconservatives and the Global Order."

Some Republicans dismiss the rift as little more than an inside-the-Beltway spat among rival factions of the GOP intelligentsia. Indeed, conservatives nationwide are still firmly behind Bush. A Pew Research Center poll last month found that 97 percent of conservative Republicans favored Bush over Kerry.

But anger is simmering among some conservatives.

"I am bitterly disappointed in his actions with this war. It is a total travesty," said Tom Hutchinson, 69, a self-described conservative from Sturgeon, Mo., who posted yard signs and staffed campaign phone banks for the Republican in 2000. Hutchinson said he did not believe the administration's stated rationales for the war, in particular the argument that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

Hutchinson, a retired businessman and former college professor, said his unease with Iraq may lead him to do something he has not done since 1956: avoid the voting booth in a presidential election.

Jack Walters, 59, a self-described "classical conservative" from Columbia, Mo., said he hadn't decided which candidate to vote for.

"Having been through Vietnam, I thought no, never again," Walters said. "But here comes the same thing again, and I'm old enough to recognize the lame reasons given for going into Iraq, and they made me ill."

The tension has been building in official Washington, where conservative members of the Senate Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees have pressed the administration for answers on combat operations; disagreed with the Pentagon on troop levels; and expressed frustration with an administration they feel has shown them disdain by withholding information.

Chief political adviser Karl Rove's formula for re-election is primarily to push Bush's conservative base to the polls.

Another administration official involved in Bush's re-election effort has voiced concern that angry conservatives will sit out the election.

But Matthew Dowd, the Bush-Cheney campaign's chief strategist, described the fear of losing conservative support as "just ludicrous."

Bush is "as strong among conservative Republicans as any Republican president has been" - higher than President Reagan's approval among conservatives during his re-election campaign of 1984, Dowd said.

Yet, Halper said his critical review on the administration's performance on Iraq last week was met with expressions of support in the conservatives' weekly meeting, which is closed to journalists.

The marquee speaker sent by the administration was Eric Ciliberti, who spent several weeks in Iraq this year and told the audience of broad progress being made there.

Ciliberti complained to the group that the news media was not reporting the positive developments out of Iraq. Ciliberti did not return several calls late in the past week from a reporter seeking his account.


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To: reformedliberal

Columbia, Missouri is indeed in Boone County.


41 posted on 07/11/2004 11:31:58 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Military Chick

This article is just another example of a liberal journalist snapping his fingers and telling conservatives to jump away from Bush...

Let's see how many run into the ambush eagerly asking "how high"...


42 posted on 07/11/2004 11:33:12 AM PDT by Tamzee (Flush the Johns before they flood the White House!)
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To: AmericanVictory
Japanese hybrid that will kill you in a crash?

Just on the idea of engineering, I've never been impressed by Japanese car makers. But the cars we are forced to buy, for lack of alternative, are 'world-sourced', today. And Dodge isn't even an American company, anymore.

At least with a bike, it can be built from the ground up. Frankly, you could do that with more than just a kit car, as well. But the bike can run $40-80. And such a custom framed and built car might be, as well.

I still try to drive American. It means buying 'classic', though. And if engineering were a problem for 'hybrid', I suspect some racers could get together and find both horsepower and full cage protection, if you went that route.

43 posted on 07/11/2004 11:33:19 AM PDT by sevry
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To: Torie
"The Pentagon has announced that we will hit Baghdad with a force almost equal to the bombing of Hiroshima. Obviously many thousands of civilians will perish, with untold thousands maimed. And for what? To liberate them? To bring them freedom? Or democracy? Or is it to really secure the world's second largest oil reserve and establish a base from which to subjugate other Middle Eastern nations? Is it also the plan for Israel to use the cover of war to forcibly relocate the Palestinian population (as has been publicly stated by some members of Israel's current government)?"

Walters appears to have a hangup about the Joos. The above words are his posted at the linked site of antiwar.com

44 posted on 07/11/2004 11:34:43 AM PDT by Torie
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To: AmericanVictory
Is this a policy?

The overwhelming policy is to continue the status-quo off-limits placement of our own natural resources while increasing our global dependence on imports. This is true for all commodities: petroleum, natural gas, steel, agricultural products, manufactured products, etc. etc. etc. Neither globalist candidate, GOP nor Democrat, is addressing this issue.

45 posted on 07/11/2004 11:36:15 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

Your standard of living would go down the toilet without imports of commodities into the US. You couldn't afford to turn on your air conditioning in the summer in Vegas.


46 posted on 07/11/2004 11:39:17 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Military Chick
This is not the cakewalk the neoconservatives predicted

Alzheimers kicking in?

Neoconservatives (read Jews by anti-semitic trash like Halper)did no such thing.

To tell the truth, the casualty rate is far below official estimates at this point.

Not that it matters to the people to stupid to understand when to go to war.

47 posted on 07/11/2004 11:39:43 AM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: Military Chick

boy, they'd better get over it, and quick!

the sunday nyt's is attacking fox news.

what the dems want is to go back to a one-party system that we had during the vietnam war, where they controlled the tv and newspapers.

with 4 supreme court justices up for grabs, conservatives had better get over their bitching about w.


48 posted on 07/11/2004 11:41:12 AM PDT by no_problema
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To: Mike Darancette

I didn't know that the GOP had a French wing.



LOL....... yep taking their ball and staying home.....


49 posted on 07/11/2004 11:42:17 AM PDT by deport (Please Flush the Johns......)
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To: Military Chick
NEWS FLASH: IT AIN"T THE WAR THAT HAS CONSERVATIVES ANGRY WITH BUSH.

It is:
1. Illegal immigration
2. The continuation of Abortion without end in site
3. A runaway court that he does nothing about
4. Foot dragging on gay marriage
5. The world court

I am sure others could add to this list.
50 posted on 07/11/2004 11:43:05 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: Military Chick

IP on AP


51 posted on 07/11/2004 11:43:10 AM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: Military Chick
This lame douchebag is trying to sell his lousy book, of course you won't read about it in the "Miami Squirrel".

Stefan Halper, a senior fellow at The Centre of International Studies at Cambridge University, served in the Nixon, Ford, and Reagan administrations, and Jonathan Clarke, a foreign-affairs scholar at the CATO Institute, are co-authors of America Alone: The Neo-Conservatives and Global Order to be published by Cambridge University Press in the summer of 2004.

52 posted on 07/11/2004 11:43:17 AM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: Military Chick
Voices that perhaps need to be heard?

Oh Please, spare me...This is nothing more than another pro-democrat puff piece. Repubs (or conservatives) are not not behind their guy, implying that the democrat has a much better chance to win.

We get these stories every election cycle. Just like on election night, the media will declare a democratic upset very early (to excite democratic voters elsewhere.) Then after the polls close on the west coast discover that they were wrong.

This story might have a little more impact if they established the credentials of the "conservative" speaker. I mean for pete's sake. The guy's served in the state dept under 2 liberal and 1 conservative administrations. That means he's a bureaucrat, it does not prove he's any sort of conservative.

53 posted on 07/11/2004 11:43:58 AM PDT by Sci Fi Guy
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To: Torie
establish a base from which to subjugate other Middle Eastern nations

You're close but no cigar.

We are in Iraq to poison the Islamic well before it poisons us.


BUMP

54 posted on 07/11/2004 11:45:48 AM PDT by tm22721 (In fac they)
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To: Military Chick
"This war is not going well," said Stefan Halper

Not going well!
Not going well!!!

These jokers should have been around:

during the French and Indian War
during the Revolution
during St. Clair’s campaign against the Miami Confederation
during the War of 1812
during Texas War for Independence
during the War with Mexico
during the War Between the States
during the Spanish American War
during World War I
during World War II
during the Korean War
during the Vietnam War

We have overthrown the governments of two countries without losing as many solders as we lost civilians on 9-11.

"Not going well". Sounds like a bunch of commie pinko cry babies to me.

55 posted on 07/11/2004 11:47:43 AM PDT by al_possum39
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To: Military Chick

" A Pew Research Center poll last month found that 97 percent of conservative Republicans favored Bush over Kerry. But anger is simmering among some conservatives."

Well, apparently not very many.


56 posted on 07/11/2004 11:51:19 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Military Chick

tom hutchinson is a neighbor of mine. he DID NOT place yard signs supporting bush in 2000.


57 posted on 07/11/2004 11:54:52 AM PDT by eleven_eleven
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To: Kuksool
Re: "So-called conservatives who waste their votes on 3rd parties tend to be malcontents who are addicted to griping and whining. It is very suspicious that such people gripe only about Bush and say nothing about Kerry. It is very curious where their true political allegiances lie."

This is nonsense. You can be suspicious all you want but a person has to make up their own mind. Bush is better than Kerry but his policies are very worrisome to conservatives in almost every aspect you can name, even the war on terror. Your passion for him (BUSH) is only explainable by the alternative in Kerry or the desire for the GOP to retain power. I myself have not decided what I will do but I will not put up with those who want to question my devotion to the party. If the GOP does not measure up on the issues I will consider a 3rd party if need be. If the GOP doesn't want to loose those votes than reconsider policy. CASE CLOSED!!!!
58 posted on 07/11/2004 11:55:47 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: Sci Fi Guy
The Neo-cons' Manufactured Case for War by Stefan Halper and Jonathan Clarke

................Howard Dean's antiwar coalition gave vent to some of the anger in a sector of the public about the cost and rationale of the enterprise. His campaign showed that, even while the center under-performed, the intrinsic vitality of the American political process could produce a force for second thoughts

The combination of a public lacking international affairs awareness and of an elite center falling down on the job provided the opening for the neoconservatives to frame the post-September 11 policy process in their terms. These were terms they had developed years before, leaving them the only ones near the seat of power with a prepared set of reactions.

Making the case for the decade-old neoconservative objective of attacking Iraq required a web of deception: that Saddam Hussein had and intended to use WMDs; that Saddam protected and supported al Qaeda; and that if he were not removed these weapons might be provided to al Qaeda, which would use them against the United States.

These claims, in essence, transformed the issues at hand by turning the possible existence of these threats into "proven" facts. The process, which anthropologists call the "discursive construction of reality" uses language to create a reality different from the one prior to the use of the language.

In this case, prominent neoconservatives fashioned a dialogue, a linguistic environment, that caused many to believe the claims were rooted in fact, which was not so. The war justification thus was created by hypothesis and interpretation.

This sure sounds like Democrat BS to me.

Why do the morons at Knight Ridder consider these anti-semites to be "Key Conservatives"?

And I thought we attacked Iraq because its a war on terror and Saddam Hussein was a terrorist who was aiding other terrorists!

I'm sure glad these geniuses have enlightened me.

59 posted on 07/11/2004 11:56:19 AM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree on the 2 Johns. Their slogan should be Vote for John and you get 4 years of crap.


60 posted on 07/11/2004 11:59:24 AM PDT by Military Chick
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