Some Key Conservatives Uneasy About Bush

The Herald (Miami) ^ | Jul. 11, 2004 | SCOTT LINDLAW

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "Anyone who doesn't support this war is no Conservative and most likely un-American"

I for one support the war totally. Anyone else ready for Iran or Syria/ I stand ready to be convinced, but your position is dead wrong, no ifs ands or buts. Almost every war had disinters in this country. Vietnam did not invent the notion. You should look deeper as to their reasons before you conclude the above statement. I know several rock solid conservatives who dislike the war. I disagree with them and it bothers me but their reasons are not Un-American. I save that opinion for the college professor or his students who protest for the grade points.

[Torie]

Yes it is, particularly if morally required as a civilized country (we don't accept the mass killing of civilians absent clear and compelling need), and if the mass killing would backfire in our faces and defeat our ultimate goal, which in this instance beyond the noble one of liberating the Iraqi people, is to pacify the Muslim jihadists. Your policy would breed more of them by the hundreds of millions.

[gatorbait]

Therefore I hope my vote will REALLY count this time around as I vote for Kerry to KEEP Hillary OUT in 2008

Oh my , I may be sunburnt by the brilliance of that statement.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "By the way I support gay marriage"

Okaaaay I hear you. Well what else can I say other than..... well now I speechless.

[No Longer Free State]

Being humane at the risk of more American lives is not acceptable.

Disagree. Being humane will save American lives in the long run. That's why our soldiers (of which I am one) don't fire on crowds when they recieve fire from them. The long-term implications (risk of mission failure) of civilian casualties are considered (by the guys on the ground making those decisions) to be more important than the risks of the fire they take.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Don't you read the papers Torie? Even some of the top conservatives in this country agree we are hated now more than *ever*.

[stands2reason]

I remember one troll that was furious with Bush because he didn't issue an executive order at once ending abortion. Tabitha Soren was her screenname, I believe.

[Torie]

It's continuum Joe, not either or. Just because some additional folks hate us, is no reason to adopt the Joe Hadenuf policy and exponentialize the problem. Does that make any sense to you Joe? It's also morally wrong to me, but your mileage clearly varies on that one.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Thank God it wasn't President Torie during the war with Japan and Germany.

[Godebert]

"I know several rock solid conservatives who dislike the war. I disagree with them and it bothers me but their reasons are not Un-American."

Do those "rock solid Conservatives " support the war now that we are in it?

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "Stay at homes and single issue prima donnas don't help this"

Several of you keep saying this, it is like some mantra or something. I fail to see where this is supported on this thread. It started out on an article about conservatives upset with where the war is going but abortion, Sen. Spector, immigration, the world court, explosive growth in government and several other issues have been raised by a couple of posters, none of whom fit the description of a single issue voter. Yet several of you keep beating that drum. This is something demoncrats do. It does not matter the facts or the subject always answer as if it supports the view you wish projected. 50 different subjects could be cited by a posted you will still identify them as a single issue voter. This is amazing.

[Kuksool]

{You seem to think Bush can just dismiss the current justices on SCOTUS, and appoint his own or something}

The Constitution Party and other unappeaseable conservatives are promoting urban legends that say Roe vs. Wade and other unlikeable Supreme Court decisions can be overturned by mere excutive orders by the President.

[swampfox98]

We are at WAR. We have been at WAR since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?

So are allies are mad at us, huh? I didn't see any other country who lost 3,000 citizens in a single day. And until they do, shut the crap up, who needs you?

This entire post is bunk. No true conservative is stupid enough to say things that this post says.

[Dane]

I know Military Chick personally. She's my wife. She's posted on FR under other names in the past, in fact for several years. She decided to chose a new name to post under recently (you'll have to ask her why)

How come you can't tell us why, you are her husband.

You already told us that your wife posts under many different names, why not go the full hundred yards, and be truthful.

[Neenah]

I agree on the 2 Johns. Their slogan should be Vote for John and you get 4 years of crap.

Give Military Chick the TROPHY !!

[Torie]

The gratuitous killing of civilians in WW II was wrong too. Dresden comes to mind. Also, bombs were cruder then, so there was more collateral damage, and we were about defeating German and Japanese military machines and as nations, who had the support of their populations, not liberating them in the sense of freeing them from their oppressor. In any event, we defeating the Iraqi military in short order. What is going on now, is not about defeating a nation's military. But then you already knew all of this. But I took the bait anyway. Shame on me.

[Dane]

I remember one troll that was furious with Bush because he didn't issue an executive order at once ending abortion. Tabitha Soren was her screenname, I believe

For all intesnvie purposes could be "miltary chick". Already got an admission from her husband on this thread that she posts under different names.

[Godebert]

"I remember one troll that was furious with Bush because he didn't issue an executive order at once ending abortion. Tabitha Soren was her screenname, I believe."

Tabitha sounds like a good woman. Ill-informed about the political process....but I'd hardly call her a "troll". A few million more just like her and the wholesale slaughter of babies would come to an end in this country.

[Dane]

I hope you are right. Michael Savage reported it last week that the Bush administration has flipped on the world court position.

Whew if you beleive what Michael Wiener(Savage) says, you seem like a good person to sell the Brooklyn Bridge to. Interested in buying it?

[No Longer Free State]

How come you can't tell us why, you are her husband. You already told us that your wife posts under many different names, why not go the full hundred yards, and be truthful.

It's not a secret, I simply didn't know. Now I do, because I asked since I originally posted. She hadn't posted under ANY name since she got her new computer, so her old name/password aren't saved on it. She didn't remember the password, and couldn't get it renewed because she no longer has the e-mail address she originally signed up with (we've moved and changed ISPs). It's a technical matter, really.

Why do you automatically assume everyone that you perceive disagrees with you has evil motives?

BTW, if you know a way she can get her old handle back without having to use an E-mail account that no longer exists, I'm sure she'd love to know about it.