Some Key Conservatives Uneasy About Bush

The Herald (Miami) ^ | Jul. 11, 2004 | SCOTT LINDLAW

[Mark in the Old South]

Gee thanks for the help.

Now allow me to put aside the sarcasm. Your being annoyed is irrelevant to how I vote. So is your views on the conservative purity thingie. Each voter has to make up his or her mind how they evaluate a candidate. A cherry picker's vote is just as valid as a nose picker (I vote the party line).

Bush does not have to fashion a coalition to get my vote, we do not have that form of government, but his policy and the positions he stakes out influence the voter's choice. He has to live with the results. Good for him if he does well. If he does poorly it will largely be his own making.

You can not properly view my posts on this thread as being an example of a cherry picker since I laid out several issues. I also do not think I distorted Bush's position on any of the issues I cited. You are entitled to disagree with my position.

As to the rest of your post I am not sure what you are getting at. My references to chest thumping and knuckle dragging was in reference to the general tone of most posts on this thread not necessarily you personally, but not excluding you either. What you have posted on other threads has little bearing here on this one. I don't keep track of your positions.

[gatorbait]

The Repbublicans already have control of the senate.

Not in nearly the strength needed .Stay at homes and single issue prima donnas don't help this , either. If the Senators realized the strength, and sitting home pouting is not strength, then I believe they'd be more likely to take it seriously. After all, this is hugh and series.

[NittanyLion]

All I do, is point out that actions and words have CONSEQUENCES.

You go out of your way to insult conservatives on this forum. You regularly attempt to drive a wedge between GOP members where there is no divide.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "Or most likely he would have gotten the Democrat, which would have also meant a Democrat Congress."

Yes it is was a possible outcome, but not the only one. I do not recommend you operate on that assumption with out hard facts. I quiver in anticipation for your polling data that shows Toomey would have meet with a resounding defeat.

[Godebert]

"That's not entirely true. We could have stopped Iraq from doing anything militarily with just our airpower. Anything even remotely deemed militarily offensive in nature could have been taken out at a moments notice. We could have eliminated Saddam and his two boys without putting one single soldier on the ground in Iraq."

Maybe...but the fact is we have troops on the ground now. You want to pull them out like a bunch of lily-livered Spainards? We need to finish the job this time.

[Brimack34]

these idiots in the press are using conservative way to loose. in their world Arnold is one.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "That information is bad" (world court)

I hope you are right. Michael Savage reported it last week that the Bush administration has flipped on the world court position. Savage is not my fav, so I am hoping you are right. But it is the latest I have heard on the subject so I have nothing to disprove him (Savage).

[FairOpinion]

But when it can mean handing the Senate over to the Democrats, it's not a time to take chances.

[Torie]

Actually, except for the world court, which I thought I helped you on, the rest of your list other than illegal immigration (i.e., abortion, gay marriage and the runaway court), makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me, under any standard. You seem to think Bush can just dismiss the current justices on SCOTUS, and appoint his own or something. What do you want him to do on gay marriage? (By the way I support gay marriage, but that is neither here nor there.)

Maybe I am just too dense to see the forest through the trees or something.

[stands2reason]

I thought I was the only one to notice. If her signup date had been today, the VK's would haved been out in full force. But she fooled them by being a three-week old poster.

Cats have small brains.

[FairOpinion]

Show me one post, where I "insulted" anyone.

Unless you are redefining words, as Clinton and Kerry do.

I merely point out the very obvious consequence, of people actions, which, one would think they should be able to see themselves.

Do you disagree with my statement, that "Anyone who prefers Kerry to Bush is no real conservative"?

Whom do YOU prefer?

There is Bush or Kerry. NO other choices.

[sanjacjake]

I agree....and there is also little said about the bastards
in the Senate who will cut him down every chance they get...
I think we all should be out ..daily..how mad we are that
they tried to cheat us out of the Florida vote..we won that
State by some 10,000..votes..but they threw away most of
the military and all in the Dem. counties...Also...
after the election and Supreme Court nominees come up...
how BIG IS THAT? cAN PRESIDENT Bush make a Supreme Court
appointment when the Senate is in recess? Who knows for
sure..if so..that will scare hell out of the Daschles/
Kennedy/Schumer/ Clinton crowd..ROTFLMAO. jAKE

[sinkspur]

Bush didn't "flip." The Bush administration said it would not seek another year's exemption for US troops, since it couldn't win the exemption in the UN.

In return, the State Department said it would be more reluctant to get involved in peace-keeping missions, since our troops could be accused of war crimes.

[Joe Hadenuf]

You have me confused with the politically correct wing of the Republican party. Since we are there, the first time the Iraqis fired on us using Mosques as cover, I would have turned at least ten of them into craters at a prearranged time. A show of force like that, would have let the SOBs know we met business. The town we pulled back from in Falluja. Remember? I would have leveled it after a fair, humane warning, of say about a two hour notice.

But we didn't do that did we?

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "CONSERVATES NEED TO SHUT THEIR YAP, and lay out the 100 yards of CRUSHED GLASS to CRAWL ON to vote for BUSH."

Knuckle dragger alert. Not gonna do it, got it. Each voter will make up his or her own mind. You crawl on the glass and beg us.

This kinda thing does not help your cause folks.

[No Longer Free State]

cAN PRESIDENT Bush make a Supreme Court appointment when the Senate is in recess? Who knows for sure..if so..that will scare hell out of the Daschles/ Kennedy/Schumer/ Clinton crowd..ROTFLMAO. jAKE

That would be a pretty dangerous precedent to set. Eventually, the democrats WILL get the presidency back. Then what?

[Torie]

Joe, you clearly were not elected president for a reason. The bomb the shit out of them, and it will all be better mentality, is so vacuous. Talk about firing up the Muslim world to hurl themselves at the US any way they can - you've found the perfect recipe for that.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Being humane at the risk of more American lives is not acceptable.

[gatorbait]

Biased reporting. Our enemies the liberals showcasing disharmony. Why would they tell the truth?

Becausue they know the idiots, ,I mean the true and principled(just ask them) ,won't bother to think . Instead , they'll jump on it as so many here have already. Why bother to be rational when self righteous swill works so much better.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Joe, you clearly were not elected president for a reason. The bomb the shit out of them, and it will all be better mentality, is so vacuous. Talk about firing up the Muslim world to hurl themselves at the US any way they can - you've found the perfect recipe for that.

Using your logic, I guess we should have fought a more politically correct, humane war with Japan and Germany.