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1 posted on 07/11/2004 5:48:53 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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Good luck with all that.


2 posted on 07/11/2004 5:52:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Ironfocus
Those of you in the African Diaspora (read Black Activists in the USA) need to educate us in our victimhood.

Does that about sum it up?

3 posted on 07/11/2004 5:52:49 AM PDT by Politically Correct
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I wonder how South-Korea, Vietnam, Japan and some eastern European countries recovered so quickly from devastating wars to at least have positive economic growth and stable social environments, but in Africa it has been over 20 years in most places, and still nothing. Yep, still slavery, colonialism and whatever other evils which befell them from the West.


4 posted on 07/11/2004 5:53:25 AM PDT by Ironfocus (You can read this, thank a teacher, it's in English, thank a soldier.)
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For there to be an African renaissance they need a healthy, educated population. Education and health are investments they need to make starting now. Outright revolt to displace the dictators who exploit them would be a good starting point.


5 posted on 07/11/2004 5:55:16 AM PDT by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats. They hate the US Constitution.)
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Somebody should sent Mbeki several copies of the Federalist Papers, the collected work of Hayek, Milton Friedman and John Locke.

Side bet. He won't read them or understand them and within ten years there will be millions of dead Africans who died from famine and preventable disease being buried amidst the weeds on fallow government-owned farmland

6 posted on 07/11/2004 5:56:51 AM PDT by muir_redwoods
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The struggle, the masses, where have I hear this before?


8 posted on 07/11/2004 6:03:54 AM PDT by Bahbah
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However, to achieve this Africans must fully understand the impact that slavery, colonialism and racism socialism has had on them.

There, that's better.

11 posted on 07/11/2004 6:07:09 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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victory in the struggle to end the global marginalisation of Africa and Africans".

I knew I'd find it somewhere in the article...

We are the victims and you're going pay for it sucka.

13 posted on 07/11/2004 6:10:50 AM PDT by JZoback ("There's a pony in here somewhere")
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>> "The call to achieve Africa's renaissance is therefore necessarily a call to the African masses to rise up in struggle to defeat poverty and underdevelopment, to end Africa's marginalisation and to restore the dignity of Africans everywhere," wrote Mbeki.

Doesn't there have to be a "naissance" before there can be a "renaissance"? Guess Mbeki considers primitive tribal barbarism as Africa's Golden Age.

14 posted on 07/11/2004 6:10:57 AM PDT by vikingd00d
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Hey Mbeeky....All's you have to do is set the people of Africa free...get rid of all the wild-eyed, fat, slobbering thugs that now run Africa, and walah...Africa would stop being known as the "dark continent" in a few years. Start with the thuggiest of them all...... mugabe of Zim....


15 posted on 07/11/2004 6:11:38 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty
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Africa's masses had to be mobilised for a revolution to improve the continent's political, economic and social situation, President Thabo Mbeki said on Friday.

He's the president of Africa?

18 posted on 07/11/2004 6:14:01 AM PDT by DameAutour (It's not Bush, it's the Congress.)
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They really shouldnt bitch about colonialism, it gave them the only things in Africa that are worth a sh!t.


20 posted on 07/11/2004 6:17:35 AM PDT by Husker24
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"African renaissance"?

Kind of lost me with that one.

I think I need a new dictionary.

23 posted on 07/11/2004 6:33:46 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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The way to improve the situation is to hang the dictators, establish private property and individual rights and get free enterprise rolling. None of the stupid socialist/Marxist schemes will work. These scams only enrich the scum. BTW, throwing out the UN and their fascist NGOs will also help.

If you need more advice feel free to call.


26 posted on 07/11/2004 6:53:19 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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When he mentioned the debilitating effects of slavery, I thought he was referring to the only slavery still remaining in the world today -- slavery practiced by Africans, notably Muslim/Arabic Africans. Silly me. I should have known that the only time slavery is BAD is when it is (was) practised by white people.


27 posted on 07/11/2004 6:56:38 AM PDT by Inkie (Surround Fallujia and start shooting.)
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Africa's masses had to be mobilised for a revolution to improve the continent's political, economic and social situation, President Thabo Mbeki said on Friday.

Sadly, the only consistency over the years is the African masses ability to transform a marginal situation into something much worse.

29 posted on 07/11/2004 7:06:41 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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"It is our responsibility, acting together with all other patriotic forces in Africa and the African Diaspora, to ensure that we mobilise the masses of the people to act as their own liberators."

As was noted previously, phases like 'patriotic forces' and 'masses of the people' can only point toward some kind of dictatorship of the proletariet. And it sounds like he is thinking about one large 'People's Republic of Africa'.

Also, 'mobilise the masses of the people to act as their own liberators' can only mean 'create a police state and take all valuable property away from those who have it now'.

It's not entirely clear if he thinks this unity and mobilization can be done by the organizations he mentions or whether he is considering unifying Africa by force...And people think Africa is in bad shape now.

42 posted on 07/11/2004 8:38:14 AM PDT by MrNatural (..".You want the truth?!"...)
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This is the prologue to intensified demands for worldwide reparations payments to Africa, probably through UN agencies and these pan-African syndicates.

Expect a bill for several trillion dollars to come due shortly.


43 posted on 07/11/2004 8:40:15 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Mbeki is insane and has been slowly slipping into insanity over the past ten years. ANything he spouts should be considers the ranting of a lunatic.


44 posted on 07/11/2004 8:42:07 AM PDT by Stag
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And Mbeki is going to do his part to help blacks... by backing Robert Mugabe?


46 posted on 07/11/2004 10:29:52 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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