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| 4/9/04
| steve mount
Posted on 07/09/2004 9:19:09 AM PDT by tpaine
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posted on
07/09/2004 9:19:09 AM PDT
by
tpaine
To: robertpaulsen
Thanks for the link, paulsen.
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posted on
07/09/2004 9:20:55 AM PDT
by
tpaine
(The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being" -- Solzhenitsyn.)
To: First_Salute
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posted on
07/09/2004 9:31:23 AM PDT
by
snopercod
(It is fair to say tonight that any recovery in this country is a work in progress - Brian Williams)
To: tpaine
"Thanks for the link, paulsen."First, I didn't give you this link. I referenced a different page.
Second, your link goes to the wrong page. The verbage you quoted comes from here. FReepers would be well advised to go to the correct page to see your excerpt in context.
Third, the author presents this scenario "as a way to spark discussion of the topic."
Fourth, I think the author is correct -- I think that our society views our freedom to bear arms as those arms "reasonable for hunting, sport, collecting, and personal defense". I believe that society neglects the fact that the primary purpose of the second amendment was to protect against tyranny.
robertpaulsen wrote:
The link I provided was for the others on this board -- here's yours.
His 'kiddy' interpretations of our Constitution are very slyly worded, I admit.
Mount is very good at his game. - You ever meet him paulsen?
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posted on
07/09/2004 9:37:34 AM PDT
by
tpaine
(The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being" -- Solzhenitsyn.)
To: tpaine
This guy sounds like another lefty trying to rewrite the Constitution to make him feel better.
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posted on
07/09/2004 9:38:31 AM PDT
by
vpintheak
(Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
To: tpaine
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posted on
07/09/2004 9:45:13 AM PDT
by
shield
(The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
To: robertpaulsen
I hope Freepers will see the whole site, paulsen..
Its very well done agit-prop for your sides anti-constitutional POV. -- Very sly.
Mount shades his interpretations just enough to appear to be 'reasonable'..
But his real idea is to rewrite our Constitution, in favor of all powerful, majority controlled States.
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posted on
07/09/2004 9:45:54 AM PDT
by
tpaine
(The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being" -- Solzhenitsyn.)
To: tpaine
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posted on
07/09/2004 9:46:30 AM PDT
by
OXENinFLA
To: tpaine
This post is a mess. I suggest you have the mods pull it and start over. Please excerpt one cohesive piece of text. You have two different sections. And please save your editorializing for the Replies section of the thread.
To: vpintheak
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To: tpaine
"But his real idea is to rewrite our Constitution, in favor of all powerful, majority controlled States."Oh my. The Founding Fathers would be appalled.
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posted on
07/09/2004 9:51:15 AM PDT
by
robertpaulsen
(Do I need to add /sarcasm?)
To: robertpaulsen
"...The need to arm the populace...is no longer of much concern...?
I beg to differ. These are the most dangerous of times. Everyone needs a means of self defense. Instead of being discouraged, gun ownership should be mandatory.
To: tpaine
Notice they want to 'replace' and not 'repeal' because when you repeal an amendment it stays in the constitution for future generations to see..
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posted on
07/09/2004 9:58:35 AM PDT
by
N3WBI3
To: tpaine
Perhaps in the 1780's, the rise of a tyrant to a leadership position in the U.S. was a cause for concern. Today, the voters are much too sophisticated to elect a leader whose stated aims would be to suppress freedom or declare martial law. The average voter today can pass an 8th grade test from 1900, or read the Federalist papers, yea we are way more sophisticated.
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posted on
07/09/2004 10:03:46 AM PDT
by
N3WBI3
To: henderson field
"...The need to arm the populace...is no longer of much concern...?I believe the complete phrase was, "... the need to arm the populace as a militia is no longer of much concern ..."
Given the fact that we now have a standing army, the reserves, and the National Guard, you still feel that we should organize, arm, and form a citizens militia? To fight ... who?
I mean, citizens should be armed, I agree. But the author was referring to a militia.
To: tpaine
I see the usual 'reasonable' crowd is showing up to slag you.
The right to keep and bear arms is, as a matter of historical fact, SPECIFICALLY rooted in the natural right to defend against tyranny.
You know it; I know it; even the 'reasonable' bunch know it. They just deny it - that's all.
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posted on
07/09/2004 10:06:02 AM PDT
by
headsonpikes
(Spirit of '76 bttt!)
To: tpaine
I wouldn't be surprised to wake up one morning in the near future to read some activist federal judge has found the Constitution to be unconstitutional.
Of course this is what they want with help from the UN and World Court.
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posted on
07/09/2004 10:18:05 AM PDT
by
Defiant1
To: vpintheak
Feel better? -- No, I think the Statists goal is to nail dowm majority control of ALL levels of local government.
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posted on
07/09/2004 10:29:08 AM PDT
by
tpaine
(The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being" -- Solzhenitsyn.)
To: NutCrackerBoy
This post is a mess. I suggest you have the mods pull it and start over. Please excerpt one cohesive piece of text. You have two different sections. And please save your editorializing for the Replies section of the thread.
10 NutCBoy
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Feel free to critique my opinions.
But please, if you must snivel, cry on paulsens sholder.
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posted on
07/09/2004 10:34:47 AM PDT
by
tpaine
(The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being" -- Solzhenitsyn.)
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