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Consensual shooting results in arrest
The New Haven Register ^ | 07/03/2004 | William Kaempffer

Posted on 07/03/2004 8:25:20 AM PDT by KosmicKitty

Edited on 07/03/2004 3:42:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: dighton; mhking; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart
Kid has himself shot, to avoid the imaginary risk of getting drafted, sent someplace, and shot at.

Ya gotta love the concept: Preemptive cowardice.

41 posted on 07/03/2004 9:11:58 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: KosmicKitty

What draft?


42 posted on 07/03/2004 9:11:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: KosmicKitty
The going rate for having yourself shot in the leg? About $100, according to the affidavit drafted by Detective Alfonso Vazquez.

This doesn't make any fiscal sense. By enlisting, he could have gone to Iraq, got shot in the leg, thus saving himself the legal trouble and public humiliation, and to top it all off, the Army would have picked up the tab for everything.

Sure, you're not guarenteed to be shot in Iraq. In fact, odds are you won't get so much as a scratch. But, you have to ask yourself 'What are my priorities'? Am I willing to lessen my odds of being shot to save some cash, or is the leg wound, the shame, and the medical hassle just that important to me?

Here's my advice, son. Don't pay your friends to shoot you in the leg. A real friend would do it for free. Hell, even a jihadist wouldn't charge you for it. You got suckered this round, and that happens. Just don't let it happen again.

43 posted on 07/03/2004 9:17:03 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Iran almost has nuclear weapons. They will get them unless we stop them.)
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To: KosmicKitty
If there was a draft, getting shot in the leg would not keep you out unless it was a permanently crippling injury.
A flesh wound would only keep you out till it healed.

Disfiguring tattooes have always worked. There was a story this week about a volunteer tossed back after the military discovered the extent of his tattooes.
I suggest the word 'IDIOT' tattooed on their foreheads, in a nice tasteful tribal design.

So9

44 posted on 07/03/2004 9:19:05 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: KosmicKitty
I wonder if the media will blame Rangle the racist for upsetting this poor "boy"?
45 posted on 07/03/2004 9:19:52 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: dighton; aculeus; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart; Tijeras_Slim; Constitution Day; L,TOWM
Go ahead and scoff, cynics, but the fact is that he has a 0% chance of getting drafted, so obviously his plan worked.

:^)

46 posted on 07/03/2004 9:22:23 AM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: Milligan

Thanks, I will give him this link.

He is a great kid but tends to believe everything he hears.

On the other hand, my son is 16 and is thinking of joining the military on his own. One of his friends is going to a military college this year (after ROTC in high school), and another is joining the National Guards after high school.

I guess it just depends on the kid that's all.


47 posted on 07/03/2004 9:26:23 AM PDT by MissyMa
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To: Servant of the 9
If there was a draft, getting shot in the leg would not keep you out unless it was a permanently crippling injury.

A flesh wound would only keep you out till it healed.

Disfiguring tattooes have always worked

Crippling injuries? Disfiguring tattooes? This is crazy talk? If you're going to spend $100, and you have no shame whatsoever, why not pay to take some, um, candid photos, of you and your 'life partner' in a sweaty, manly display of intimacy?

As a draft countermeasure, it can't fail. Just hold onto the pictures until your number is called.

Then, sashay into that draft board, drop off the photos, and faster than you can click your heels and whip that feather boa, you'll be on your way, a free, umm, ah, male. Yes, a free male.

Sure, it involves scraping out every last spoonful of your dignity, but it's no gunshot wound.

48 posted on 07/03/2004 9:32:48 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Iran almost has nuclear weapons. They will get them unless we stop them.)
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To: Steel Wolf
"Now, we're not homosexual..." ;)
49 posted on 07/03/2004 9:41:36 AM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: Steel Wolf
why not pay to take some, um, candid photos, of you and your 'life partner' in a sweaty, manly display of intimacy?

I would rather lose a leg, but this would probably work out for the type that would want to avoid service.

So9

50 posted on 07/03/2004 9:42:45 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: KosmicKitty

The going rate for having yourself shot in the leg, $100

Court costs/fines for getting caught, $1,500

Finding out that there's NO DRAFT and you had yourself shot for NOTHING???

PRICELESS.

51 posted on 07/03/2004 9:43:08 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: KosmicKitty
The leftists are trying to scare young voters away from voting for President Bush. Here was one recent appeal that I saw in a bulletin posted by a user to "MySpace.com".

please re-post.

There is pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills: S89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin at early as Spring 2005 -- just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections

http://www.hslda.org/legislation

Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and HR 163 forward,entitled the Universal National Service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons [age 18--26] in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills currently sit in the committee on armed services.

Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era. College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

This plan, among other things, eliminates higher education as a shelter and includes women in the draft.

Actions, actions, actions:

Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents.... And let your children know - it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change! Please also contact your representatives to ask them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills -- and contact newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important story.

The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004 selective service system (sss) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective Service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation.

Please see website:

to view the sss annual performance plan - fiscal year 2004.

The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on "terrorism"] proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html

WHAT TO DO:

Tell all your friends!!!!! Contact your Senators & Reps and tell them to oppose these bills!!! For the full list of Senate & House Representatives (53) and websites, go to: http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/cgi-bin/newseek.cgi?site=ctc

and select Email your Members of Congress.

Write them.

The fear is irrational. Look up the names of the sponsors and co-sponsors of those bills. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS A DEMOCRAT.

That the sheep out there could circulate this crap and still not find the source is mind boggling.

Here are the government links to the bills and the names of the (co)sponsors:

H.R.163
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 1/7/2003)
Cosponsors:
Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 1/7/2003
Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 1/28/2003
Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 5/19/2004
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 1/28/2003
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 1/7/2003
Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] - 1/28/2003
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 1/28/2003
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 1/28/2003
Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 1/7/2003
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 1/7/2003
Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 1/28/2003
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 1/7/2003
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [NY-12] - 1/28/2003
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] - 1/28/2003(withdrawn - 6/21/2004)

S89

Sponsor: Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [SC] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (None)

52 posted on 07/03/2004 9:44:13 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What draft?

The ones the Democrats proposed to scare the young people about Iraq.

53 posted on 07/03/2004 9:46:45 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Iowegian

When it comes to "gun violence", the media regards anyone under 25 as "a child". It certainly helps to tilt the numbers.


54 posted on 07/03/2004 9:51:35 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Servant of the 9

good idea, only it should read "TOIDI"....


55 posted on 07/03/2004 9:52:15 AM PDT by nicko (CW3 Ret.-"Lt., you need to just unass the AO-I know what I'm doing-that goes for you too, Major...")
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To: dighton

Someone should tell him that Islamofascists were shooting at civilians in the D.C. area last year.


56 posted on 07/03/2004 9:53:44 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: KosmicKitty
Mistake in the article

While reinstatement of the draft has been debated by democrats who see it as a way to promote civil unrest, there is no military draft.

There, I fixed it.

57 posted on 07/03/2004 9:56:30 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Become a monthly donor! Viking Kittens do not live by troll alone.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Then, sashay into that draft board, drop off the photos, and faster than you can click your heels and whip that feather boa, you'll be on your way, a free, umm, ah, male. Yes, a free male.

In my Easter Bonnet
With all the frills upon it
I'm sure to be a great hit
With my draft board today

58 posted on 07/03/2004 10:00:39 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Become a monthly donor! Viking Kittens do not live by troll alone.)
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To: Chode

Francisco Zambrano has made his Italian heritage look even worse than before.


59 posted on 07/03/2004 10:00:45 AM PDT by B4Ranch (We're going to take things away from you (guns) on behalf of the common good." Hillary 6/29/2004)
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To: MissyMa

Can't blame him. I joined the Navy in 1980 because I thought Carter was going to start the draft again. I found out later the government didn't need one. It was Jimmy Carter talking. Now I verify.
I did have a good time in the Navy. I saw the world. I just didn't like 11 weeks of bootcamp.


60 posted on 07/03/2004 10:02:28 AM PDT by Milligan
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