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SEAFOOD STRUGGLE Shrimpers strike back
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 3, 2004, 12:34AM | NELSON ANTOSH

Posted on 07/03/2004 5:42:25 AM PDT by BellStar

On a busy Thursday afternoon, people stood in line to buy shrimp at Rose's Seafood, a no-frills market on a little waterfront street in Kemah. What wasn't as obvious is that roughly half the shrimp spread out before them in big, wet piles were imported — although the market is located a stone's throw from where shrimp boats dock.

Shrimp producers from countries like China and Vietnam,plus four others, are facing the distinct possibility of paying substantial duties as the result of an anti-dumping petition working its way through Washington.

The first indications of how big the duties will be will come Tuesday when the Commerce Department revealsits preliminary decision on China and Vietnam, to be followed late this month by decisions on India,Thailand, Ecuador and Brazil.

At this point, nobody knows how high officials will set the duties, which are supposed to protect U.S. fishermen from unfair competition by raising the priceof imported shrimp here. The domestic shrimpers arefollowing the lead of catfish and crawfish farmers, who have won similar cases.

In a sign that the decision is headed in favor of domestic shrimpers, the U.S. International Trade Commission in February made a preliminary finding of injury to the industry. As with the Commerce Department, it still must make a final decision.

The final numbers aren't expected until late this year or in early 2005.Nobody really knows how much the cost of shrimp will increase at fish markets like Rose's. Manager Tina Tran says it could be on the order of $2 per pound or even $2.50 per pound, on top of the nearly $9 per pound the jumbo size already costs.

44 percent increase? A group representing the American Seafood Distributors Association and the Consuming Industries Trade Action Coalition calculates that retail prices will go up 30 percent under one range of duties, and 44 percent under another range.

Under the latter scenario by the group that opposes the sanctions, the price of U.S.-caught shrimp would go up28 percent, the cost of imported shrimp from the targeted countries would rise 84 percent, and shrimp from other importing countries would rise 19 percent.

"Shrimp has become America's No. 1 seafood becauseimports of high-quality, affordable shrimp have allowed more American restaurants — from family owned restaurants to the most popular chains — to sell a wider variety of shrimp dishes, and American grocery stores to sell millions of pounds of shrimp," Wally Stevens, representing the group, said in a prepared statement.

"Without these imports, shrimp would still be an expensive luxury food that only the rich can afford."

Shrimp boat owners and shrimp processors, representing major states including Louisiana and Texas, describe the anti-dumping effort as a last-ditch effort to stay in business in the face of zooming imports of pond-raised shrimp, which have slashed prices they are able to get at the boat.

Imports have grown to the point that some 87 percent of all shrimp consumed in the United States came from other countries by 2002, and probably grew since then.

The wholesale price is said to be at a 40-year low.

Prices down, fuel costs up In Dickinson, longtime shrimper Richard Moore says prices are off by 40 to 50 percent because of imports that started to take off in late 2000. Meanwhile, the cost of diesel fuel has risen.

"This industry has been cut in half," he said, adding that the duties won't cure everything, but they are a start.

The U.S. shrimp industry is in dire straits, said Eddie Gordon, president of the Southern Shrimp Alliance,representing the eight states. Companies are closing, unemployment is rising and boats are being repossessed,he said.

"The key reason is the high and increasing level of dumped shrimp entering the U.S. market," he said in a prepared statement.

Blaming the middleman The shrimpers say fair pricing won't necessarily cause an increase at retail and will not limit the amount that can be imported. They cite a study indicating thatretail hasn't gone down like wholesale.

"Too many people in the middle are making all the money," Moore said.

Trade has to be unfair in order to be subject to duties. The government will study the costs to raise shrimp in the six countries and what these shrimp are sold for at home.

The anti-dumping tactic has been used successfully in recent years by catfish farmers who went after Vietnam,crawfish raisers in Louisiana who got duties on frozen crawfish tails from China, and honey producers who got duties on Chinese imports.

In the case of catfish, the farm price has risen to 72 cents a pound in March, compared with 58 cents a pounda year earlier, mostly because of duties that kicked in late last year. Frozen catfish fillets, the specific target of duties, were $2.68 a pound in May, compared with $2.42 a year ago, according to government statistics.

nelson.antosh@chron.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: china; imports; petition; seafood; shrimpers; trade; vietnamantidumping
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To: hedgetrimmer

"...Your friend is no friend he is a shill for the United Nations,because they want to see an end to fishing in this country..."

I can ASSURE you that my friend is no shill for the U.N. He knows the U.N. is a nest of parasites. He'd fall out of his chair laughing if he read your post!


81 posted on 07/03/2004 1:39:56 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: DugwayDuke
The American shrimpers have no right to demand that other Americans pay a specific price for their product

Wha? A producer is not allowed to set a price for his goods?
82 posted on 07/03/2004 1:40:41 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Ditter
"Bay shrimping should be banned"

You would see another American industry go down in flames? I think you have an agenda that has not one thing to do with conservation.

83 posted on 07/03/2004 1:47:37 PM PDT by BellStar (I will not amend my beliefs according to someone else’s politically correct straight jacket.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Oh, I'm all in favor of 'putting America first' but I'm not in favor of stealing from my fellow citizens. Tariffs are a legitimate method for raising government revenue, but they should not be used to enrich one group of Americans at the expense of another.

When you begin to use tariffs to protect jobs you have embarked upon a perilous path for a conservative and you should be prepared to answer some questions.

The first question is just how much power do you wish to give to the government? Once you accept the premise that using tariffs to protect jobs is legitimate, you must be prepared to describe just which jobs will be protected and how many jobs will be protected.

Suppose you decide that the jobs of 100,000 shrimpers must be protected. Now you must decide upon the price of shrimp that will ensure 100,000 shrimpers keep their jobs. That means you'll have to decide upon a wage level that will ensure 100,000 persons will take jobs as shrimpers. And, you'll have to set up a system to monitor the employment levels in the shrimping business. If the number of shrimpers drop below 100,000, you will have to increase the tariffs and if the number goes above, then you'll have to drop the tariffs. It should be evident at this point that you will have decided, as a matter of national policy, that Americans should eat a certain amount of shrimp, ie, the output of 100,000 shrimpers.

Sure, you can do these things but you will have given the government the power and the obligation to determine how many people will work in the shrimp industry, how much they will be paid, and how much shrimp Americans will consume. You will notice that government has decided these things and they will have an obligation to 'regulate trade', ie, the price of shrimp until these things happen whether the American people desire to work as shrimpers or consume shrimp. Now, tell me this is a conservative thing to do.

And, once you have the shrimping industry humming like a well oiled machine, you're going to have to deal with every other industry, all with their own demands to protect jobs. You wind up with a situation where the government, not the people, determines who will work where and how much they will be paid, and how much of their product will be consumed by other Americans. Is this the kind of conservative world you want? And, now you must answer the really important question, just how does this world differ from the other types of central planning systems, ie, socialism, facism, etc.


84 posted on 07/03/2004 1:47:57 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Renfield
If your friend knows the UN then he would know their involvement in our fisheries. Most people who parrot the UN line that our commercial fishermen are destroying fishing for the sport fishermen don't even realize where this disinformation is coming from.

The fishing agreements that send US tax dollars to support foreign fishing fleets and the emlination of reciprocal trade rules and tariffs are helping to make the UN goal of shutting down commercial fishing in the US a reality. The UN promotes the wealth redistribution called "free trade" because the multilateral trade agreements required by the WTO directs money to the UNs most favored "least developed countries".
85 posted on 07/03/2004 1:48:42 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Pilsner

Shrimp die if water temperature dips below 40F. In the Continental U.S., the only places suitable for outdoor shrimp ponds are extreme south Florida and extreme Southern California, and real estate in both places is too valuable to use for shrimp ponds. Shrimp cultivation has been tried in the Mississippi delta and in South Carolina, but it hasn't worked very well. And it's damned hard to keep the herons, raccoons, otters, etc, from sneaking in and eating up the stock. If we want farm-raised shrimp, we'll be importing them.


86 posted on 07/03/2004 1:48:42 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: BellStar

You think wrong.


87 posted on 07/03/2004 1:49:24 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: anymouse

Heads up!


88 posted on 07/03/2004 1:49:24 PM PDT by BellStar (I will not amend my beliefs according to someone else’s politically correct straight jacket.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

You are embarrassing yourself. I'm involved in this issue, and I KNOW that commercial fishing is devastating fish stocks. This isn't just a "U.N. line", it's the TRUTH. A worldwide shutdown of commercial fishing would be just fine with me. Recreational fisherman take a tiny portion of the total catch, especially or large offshore fish.


89 posted on 07/03/2004 1:55:15 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: Hank Rearden
No, it's not ok for the government to pick winners in commerce

Thats exactly what the WTO does with its multilateral trade agreements that prop up industries in foreign countries with US tax dollars.

The WTO is picking winners in the fishing industry because they have forced the elimination of tariffs against Viet Nam or other foreign shrimp producers. Americans are not distorting their own market, the WTO is.
90 posted on 07/03/2004 1:55:40 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

"Wha? A producer is not allowed to set a price for his goods?"

I said they have no right to demand that you pay a specific price. Prices are set in the market place between willing sellers and purchasers. If you don't like the price offered, you have the right to seek other sellers. In this case, using tariffs to restrict competition, gives the seller the power to set prices at the expense of the consumer since the consumer has no other source of supply.

Or looking at this from a different perspective, should the consumer have the ability to demand that the producer sell at a specific price and to use the power of government to enforce that demand?


91 posted on 07/03/2004 2:06:11 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Renfield
You are embarrassing yourself.

The UN is the source of the disinformation. The fishermen know that when the UN biologists go out and count fish, they purposely go where the fish aren't so the count is alway low. They are totally behind the disinformation that global fisheries are being harmed, because they are just like you, they want fishing shut down. The UN wants to manage everything. They want to manage fishing. They would have it shut down, so they can annoint their corrupt buddies to be the only fishermen on the globe.

And recent evidence from the U.N.'s FAO seems to support the claims of an ocean crisis. In a statement released this May, the FAO said that unless fishery management practices improve, global demand for fish could outstrip supply by 2010. "In too many fisheries, management has failed to protect resources from being overexploited and fisheries from being economically inefficient," said FAO Fishery Resources division director Serge Garcia.

Citing 1994 data, the FAO says 35 percent of the world's 200 major fishery resources show declining yields, with 69 percent of stocks in need of urgent management.

"In probably 95 percent of the [fishery] cases over time, things will get worse," says NRDC senior policy analyst Karen Garrison.

Ocean Trust's Lassen disputes this gloomy assessment. To support his claims, he points to fisheries service statistics showing a decline in overfishing among U.S. stocks. In 1992, the fisheries service reported 45 percent of U.S. stocks were overfished. In 1998, that figure dropped to 30 percent. "Overall globally, overfishing has not been decreasing, nor has it been increasing," he says. "The condition of our fisheries in general has stabilized."

Lassen disputes the report's interpretations and says its assertions leave the impression that most of the world's fisheries are in trouble. "I would call it 'Hook, Line and Sinker,' given what people are being asked to swallow," he snaps.

To prove the point, Ocean Trust takes that same FAO data and states the converse: "About 76 percent of the world's marine fish stocks are being fished at or below their long-term sustainable harvest levels."

How can this be? The FAO data rate the fisheries as 44 percent fully fished, 23 percent moderately fished, 16 percent overfished, 9 percent under-exploited, 6 percent depleted and 3 percent recovering. So as long as that 44 percent fully fished figure constitutes the bulk-filler for a particular claim, the data can be reassembled to create a figure bolstering any impression desired.

92 posted on 07/03/2004 2:26:47 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: DugwayDuke
So....does this mean the FREEPER get together at the Blessing of the Fleet is off?
93 posted on 07/03/2004 2:33:31 PM PDT by BellStar (I will not amend my beliefs according to someone else’s politically correct straight jacket.)
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To: Poodlebrain
... ...purchase fresh caught shrimp from out of the back of pickup trucks.

Damn, how did they get those things to keep from sinking?

94 posted on 07/03/2004 2:33:55 PM PDT by pageonetoo (Rights, what Rights'. You're kidding, right? This is Amerika!)
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To: All
Let's make this a FREEPER event Blessing of the Fleet
95 posted on 07/03/2004 2:36:20 PM PDT by BellStar (I will not amend my beliefs according to someone else’s politically correct straight jacket.)
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To: pageonetoo

They had camper shells on the pickups, and they used ice chests to store their product. Their supplies were frequently limited, and they would often sell out.

The people I purchased from were part of a chain that sold what the restaurants, merchants and food processors did not buy. They had a couple refrigerated trucks that would visit the various roadside set-ups and distribute fresh product. The roadside trucks, which were painted a hideous lavender, just act as the storefronts. I knew of several locations for the trucks in the New Orleans and Baton Rouge areas. The prices were lower than those in supermarkets or seafood shops, and they knew that their continued success depended on selling quality products.


96 posted on 07/03/2004 2:59:56 PM PDT by Poodlebrain
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To: BellStar

97 posted on 07/03/2004 4:20:03 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Ni Jesus, Ni Marx..OUI REAGAN!)
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To: BellStar
I go out of my way to ask if the shrimp is US or imported at the grocery store et al, even if it is several dollars higher in price. It is virtually impossible to find. I boycott the imported junk unless my withdrawl symptoms get way out of hand.
98 posted on 07/03/2004 4:21:49 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: arthurus
"Dumping" is when them damn furriners conspire to produce a product at lower cost than Americans produce it and thus are able to charge a lower price.

Isn't that a normal part of the economy? Folks producing stuff at lower costs and selling for lower prices?
99 posted on 07/03/2004 6:10:57 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: arthurus
dumping
Related: Economics


selling goods at less than the normal price, usually as exports in international trade. It may be done by a producer, a group of producers, or a nation. Dumping is usually done to drive competitors off the market and secure a monopoly, or to hinder foreign competition. To counterbalance international dumping, nations often resort to flexible tariffs.

Dumping disturbs those markets that receive dumped goods, and it may drive local producers out of business. Governments may condone, or even sponsor, dumping in other markets for either political reasons or to achieve a more favorable balance of payments.

In the United States various tariff acts have been passed to deal with different types of dumping; in particular the 1921 Emergency Tariff Act imposed special duties on goods imported for sale at less than their fair value or cost of production. It was amended by the Customs Simplification Act of 1954. The General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) prohibits dumping and provides for increased import duties to combat the practice.
100 posted on 07/03/2004 8:40:39 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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