This is precisely what Christophobes like Kerberos fear. Encouraging Christians to vote their consciences can only lead to one thing!
sheesh
Posted on 07/02/2004 8:36:00 PM PDT by Kerberos
"I wasn't so certain before, but now I'm absolutely convinced the Republican Party is "the other liberal party".
Welcome to reality. I can certainly use the company. :-)
"Wow, Kerberos, we actually agree on this one."
Hey, keep coming around, there's hope for you. :-)
ROTFLMAO!
So, can we create a party of two. Could we call the party, The Realist Party? We would probably never have more then a handful of members, and we don't need a list.
These civil libertarians need to ask the Democratic party why they keep sending my fiance credit card offers in the mail every other day.
There's nothing wrong with Christians being politically aligned/active as individuals, or in voluntarily formed groups (American Family Association, etc.). And certainly they ought to vote in a way consistent with their morals.
But to have organized church involvement in secular politics is a perversion of what God established it for. We read nothing of Jesus crusading for governmental change in the Roman Empire, even though He knew it would be persecuting His followers. The purpose of religion is spiritual, not secular.
Yep, when churches become an accountable tool of politics, they will no longer serve God, but man. Surprising how many "conservatives" want their church to serve man.
There may be an easier way to do something similar. They could create a website for active Christians to register (with email as well for updates). Quite a number of the online newspapers do this.
"There may be an easier way to do something similar. They could create a website for active Christians to register (with email as well for updates)"
I like that idea, the active participation is on the part of the person who registers, for mailings or whatever. It does not involve the government meddling in churches.
This is just a divide and conquer article by the media trying to hurt Bush. I honestly don't see anything remotely like "theocracy" in it anywhere. I see that churches can accept or reject a request by the Bush campaign to address politics from the pulpit. Are you arguing that democracy is above (or beneath) religious criticism?
"So, can we create a party of two. Could we call the party, The Realist Party?"
Well from my perspective it would be a 100% of the current party I am in, The Lone Realist.
"I honestly don't see anything remotely like "theocracy" in it anywhere"
And that is exactly the problem; people don't see where this has the potential to go.
Just as an example and a tangent - hospitals often ask for one's "religious preference" on the registration form. Granted, that's also voluntary and a private institution. I don't mind telling people when asked that I am a Christian and the specific denomination. There's no problem with a public declaration of faith (in my experience).
There is already a "Catholics Against Kerry" org which (the title) I rather like.
If you can, describe what you mean by "the new theocracy"? What are the specific dangers you see? Try to be as precise and specific as possible ( actual, current government policies). I would be interested and it might inform and improve the debate.
This kind of thing has been going on for quite a while - the Christian Coalition, the Moral Majority, Pro-life groups, school prayer lobbyists, etc. The Reagan-Bush and Bush-Quayle campaigns targeted very specific cultural demographics, including religious orientation. In what sense is campaign support research using those kind of demographics a "theocracy"?
Did you follow this debate? I would de interested in any diversity of opinion from trads, Novus Ordo, or moderate conservative Catholics on this... Is this a "theocracy"?
Any opinion on this debate? Are we headed towards the mediaeval menace of "theocracy"? (whimsical replies allowed)
Not a fundamentalist - not even a member of a church - but if churches aren't going to come down on the side of what's right, who will?
You seem to think people have to be protected with yet another regulation and are too helpless to just "say no" if they are solicited and don't wish to contribute/participate.
That's a very liberal attitude.
This is precisely what Christophobes like Kerberos fear. Encouraging Christians to vote their consciences can only lead to one thing!
sheesh
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