Posted on 07/02/2004 1:45:30 PM PDT by Stoat
Edited on 07/02/2004 4:58:20 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
JOHN GIBSON, HOST: Is that English? A poet in the streets or just a thug who got rich by rhyming about gansta life. Some teachers say the late rapper, Tupac Shakur (search), is just Robert Frost (search) for kids of today. Heather Nauert, here with more rhyme and maybe some reason.
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Ozzy, without question is the greatest musical poet of all time.
Metallica's earlier days. New stuff sucks.
TOOL is my favorite though (both in music and lyrics).
This is crazy. I used to live in Worcester and now live in a suburb right outside of Worcester because I didn't want my kids to go to the public schools there.
Judging from this, I made the right choice.
I have never read or heard Mr. Shaker's groovin' rhymes (that I know of), but I can say that I've read plenty of Shakespeare and have seen enough of his plays to know that Mr. Shaker can't be much worse.
...errrr....what was the question again?
I agree-Metallica's new stuff does suck. I've never listened to this deceased rapper's stuff, but if it is anything like the rap I hear coming from one of my neighbors' kid's stereo sometimes when the wind blows the right way (they live about an acre away), it makes my teeth itch, and I can't see that it teaches anything but how to yell motherf*****, use nasty slang, beat up women and call them whores-I counter it by turning up my head banger music, unless it is late at night.
Rap has more claim on poetry than it does music, by my definition an element present in all music is harmony, and the little rap music that I have heard is anything but harmonious.
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If getting the little darlings to read print on paper is the be-all and end-all of education, why not just have them read Mein Kampf? That'll get their attention... (/sarcasm)
Oh yes,he is.
TOOL/Metallica bump
"Tupac Shakur (search), is just Robert Frost (search) for kids of today.
And we wonder why our kids are screwed up. I don't know how you can equate gang violenc, rape, and drugs to Robert Frost. We really need to get the NEA out of public education."
Agreed. Shakespeare and other icons of classic literature are impugned and castigated as "dead white males" whereas pimps who bleat an obscene and ultraviolent nursery rhyme in a breathtakingly inarticulate fashion to a machine beat are regarded as "great writers".
We are in the midst of a Dark Age in our culture, but it still stands head and shoulders above others. Parents who care about a quality education for their children are forced to either homeschool, send thier child to a charter school (which is not always available in your community)or to an expensive private school (or college).
This will continue for as long as we place racial politics and political correctness above the pursuit of knowledge and truth. I feel optimistic, however, in that the public at large is finally recognizing this illness and is beginning to fight back. I don't know if there will be a "great awakening" of knowlege and culture free of the shackles of Socialist politics in my lifetime, but I see movement in that direction and so I continue to have hope.
Gee, wonder if Wilderness and The American Night are on that list? Ya think? ;-)
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