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Transcript: Rap Lyrics on Students' Summer Reading List
Fox News ^ | July 2, 2004

Posted on 07/02/2004 1:45:30 PM PDT by Stoat

Edited on 07/02/2004 4:58:20 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

JOHN GIBSON, HOST: Is that English? A poet in the streets or just a thug who got rich by rhyming about gansta life. Some teachers say the late rapper, Tupac Shakur (search), is just Robert Frost (search) for kids of today. Heather Nauert, here with more rhyme and maybe some reason.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: education; literature; michellemalkin; rap; reading; schools; sixpackfersure; tupac

1 posted on 07/02/2004 1:45:30 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat
Metallica's lyrics are true poetry and masterful descriptions of human emotion.

Ozzy, without question is the greatest musical poet of all time.

2 posted on 07/02/2004 1:46:54 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Phantom Lord
I've always preferred Ozzy in the Sabbath days. Don't care much for the solo stuff.

Metallica's earlier days. New stuff sucks.

TOOL is my favorite though (both in music and lyrics).

3 posted on 07/02/2004 1:49:38 PM PDT by Undertow ("I have found some kind of temporary sanity...")
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To: Stoat

This is crazy. I used to live in Worcester and now live in a suburb right outside of Worcester because I didn't want my kids to go to the public schools there.

Judging from this, I made the right choice.


4 posted on 07/02/2004 1:49:39 PM PDT by MissyMa
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To: Stoat
Heeeeeeere we go...

Again.


$710.96... The price of freedom.

5 posted on 07/02/2004 1:50:06 PM PDT by rdb3 (When I reached the fork in the road, I drove straight.)
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To: Stoat
MALKIN AND NAUERT DISCUSSING TOGETHER AND NO PICTURES????
6 posted on 07/02/2004 1:57:28 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Stoat
I would like to know how it is that students who read lines like, "I'm more than you can handle, I'm hotter than a wax candle" are then going to make the leap to loving the sonnets of Shakespeare.

I have never read or heard Mr. Shaker's groovin' rhymes (that I know of), but I can say that I've read plenty of Shakespeare and have seen enough of his plays to know that Mr. Shaker can't be much worse.

7 posted on 07/02/2004 2:00:11 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: dangus
"MALKIN AND NAUERT DISCUSSING TOGETHER AND NO PICTURES???? "
8 posted on 07/02/2004 2:05:54 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

...errrr....what was the question again?


9 posted on 07/02/2004 2:07:53 PM PDT by Damocles (sword of...)
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To: Undertow

I agree-Metallica's new stuff does suck. I've never listened to this deceased rapper's stuff, but if it is anything like the rap I hear coming from one of my neighbors' kid's stereo sometimes when the wind blows the right way (they live about an acre away), it makes my teeth itch, and I can't see that it teaches anything but how to yell motherf*****, use nasty slang, beat up women and call them whores-I counter it by turning up my head banger music, unless it is late at night.


10 posted on 07/02/2004 2:10:32 PM PDT by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line)
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To: Stoat

Rap has more claim on poetry than it does music, by my definition an element present in all music is harmony, and the little rap music that I have heard is anything but harmonious.


11 posted on 07/02/2004 2:22:18 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Biblebelter
Anything that gets 'em to read is okay in my book.

Check out this newsgroup ---
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Everything you ever wanted to read, and then some...

12 posted on 07/02/2004 4:18:24 PM PDT by Siegfried (oh bury meeeeeee, on the lone prairieeeeee....)
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To: Stoat

If getting the little darlings to read print on paper is the be-all and end-all of education, why not just have them read Mein Kampf? That'll get their attention... (/sarcasm)


13 posted on 07/02/2004 5:56:45 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: Stoat
Tupac Shakur (search), is just Robert Frost (search) for kids of today.

And we wonder why our kids are screwed up. I don't know how you can equate gang violenc, rape, and drugs to Robert Frost. We really need to get the NEA out of public education.
14 posted on 07/03/2004 12:11:58 AM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: randog

Oh yes,he is.


15 posted on 07/03/2004 12:13:33 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Undertow; Phantom Lord

TOOL/Metallica bump


16 posted on 07/03/2004 12:28:14 AM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: Wolfhound777

"Tupac Shakur (search), is just Robert Frost (search) for kids of today.

And we wonder why our kids are screwed up. I don't know how you can equate gang violenc, rape, and drugs to Robert Frost. We really need to get the NEA out of public education."

Agreed. Shakespeare and other icons of classic literature are impugned and castigated as "dead white males" whereas pimps who bleat an obscene and ultraviolent nursery rhyme in a breathtakingly inarticulate fashion to a machine beat are regarded as "great writers".

We are in the midst of a Dark Age in our culture, but it still stands head and shoulders above others. Parents who care about a quality education for their children are forced to either homeschool, send thier child to a charter school (which is not always available in your community)or to an expensive private school (or college).

This will continue for as long as we place racial politics and political correctness above the pursuit of knowledge and truth. I feel optimistic, however, in that the public at large is finally recognizing this illness and is beginning to fight back. I don't know if there will be a "great awakening" of knowlege and culture free of the shackles of Socialist politics in my lifetime, but I see movement in that direction and so I continue to have hope.


17 posted on 07/03/2004 1:02:26 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Gee, wonder if Wilderness and The American Night are on that list? Ya think? ;-)


18 posted on 07/03/2004 1:16:29 AM PDT by I_dmc
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