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Moore claims victory over 'Passion of Christ'
Worldnetdaily ^ | July 1, 04 | Worldnetdaily

Posted on 07/02/2004 10:03:19 AM PDT by churchillbuff

ASHLAND, Ore. – Whooping and hollering greeted Michael Moore's statement that his virulently anti-Bush film "Fahrenheit 9/11" beat out Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ."

"I think Jesus had something to do with that," said Moore during Monday's meeting at Southern Oregon University in Ashland, Ore., part of a national event sponsored by MoveOn.org. Comparing the initial attendance stats for the two films – and accentuating the one or two measures by which, says Moore, "Fahrenheit" edged out "Passion" – Moore boasted: "I've been feeling for a month He's been very upset at the [selling of] that movie. So I think it was His own little payback this weekend."

A self-described "practicing Catholic," Moore said his film barely nosed out "The Passion," but what surprised WND columnist and talk show host Bob Just, who attended Monday's meeting and recorded it, was the wild cheering at the news.

"You definitely felt the hostility in the room toward traditional Christians," said Just, a former liberal, now-conservative Democrat – and also a Christian. "At one point, Moore boasted that his film so infuriated one man that he threw his shoe at the image of George W. Bush on the screen."

"Hot Enough For You?" screamed the headline of one campus flyer. "Then Organize." Moveon.org's flyer was even more blunt: "Michael Moore wants to know: Are you ready to turn up the heat on George W. Bush?"

The Oregon campus meeting Just attended was billed as a "House Party." Local attendance was estimated at several hundred people, but according to Moveon.org, nationwide there were enough people connected online that night to fill a football stadium.

"In living rooms and meeting halls across America," proclaimed the flyer, "we'll be joining Michael for a live, interactive, on-line discussion of his film. You'll also be give an opportunity to make a real difference in this election, by joining in an intensive voter registration and education drive."

Most of Moore's conversation was geared toward taking not only the presidency this fall, but perhaps even Congress as well.

A large screen displayed the computer hook-up as the audience looked on. At several points the transmission went down or became garbled.

Students and others who came for the promised "open discussion in film rhetoric" were first heavily pressured to join the Moveon effort. Each audience participating was asked to collect its group leader statistics and upload them in the computer, which flashed the results by locality. Likewise, each group was called on to recruit more people and expand its numbers.

"Take that day off on November second," Moore exhorted. "And take, you know, take five non-voters to the polls. You know who they are. They're your friends, your family members, people you go to school with. Just commit now to convincing them. Tell them, you're at work or whatever, it's at noontime, tell them, 'Hey, let's all, come on with me. I'll buy everybody lunch,' you know, or if it's at night, you know – "free beer for everybody that comes vote with me right now!" You know, just get creative. Do whatever it is you gotta do!"

Republicans, says Just, have been trying recently to write off the "Gore-Moore left" as a "coalition of the wild-eyed." But, "it is more serious than that. All you have to do is see Moore's movie and you'll know you've entered into an alternate reality," adds Just, who has a masters degree in film from NYU Institute of Film and Television.

In fact, even reputable liberal pundits are stepping forward to denounce "Fahrenheit's" inaccuracy, from Christopher Hitchen to Ellen Goodman to The Washington Post's Richard Cohen.

"Moore's depiction of why Bush went to war is so silly and so incomprehensible that it is easily dismissed," Cohen wrote in yesterday's Post. "As far as I can tell, it is a farrago of conspiracy theories. But nothing is said about multiple U.N. resolutions violated by Iraq or the depredations of Saddam Hussein. In fact, prewar Iraq is depicted as some sort of Arab folk festival – lots of happy, smiling indigenous people. Was there no footage of a Kurdish village that had been gassed? This is obscenity by omission."

Hitchens called the film a "sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness," while Newsweek joined in this week with a headline, "More Distortions from Michael Moore."

"But remember this," Moore told the youthful audience, which filled the Brit Ballroom on the Southern Oregon campus. "The other side, they are organized! And they're really, I mean, they are historically, uh, much better at this than we are. They are up at the crack of dawn, uh, trying to figure out what group of Americans they're going to hurt today."


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To: TradicalRC

Moore is rabid.


201 posted on 07/03/2004 12:05:16 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: churchillbuff

"Prewar Iraq as an arab folk festival" LOL "Springtime, and the hummus is easy..." Thanks for the honesty, Mr. Cohen.


202 posted on 07/03/2004 12:16:08 AM PDT by 185JHP ( "Who is this King of Glory? The Lord strong and mighty, invincible in battle."u)
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To: churchillbuff

Sounds like Mr. Moore is a legend in his own mind.


203 posted on 07/03/2004 3:53:31 AM PDT by navygal (God loves all sinners, just not the sin.)
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To: churchillbuff

Actually I am glad he is making statements like this. Less likely that the 'moderates' will listen to his political points of view.


204 posted on 07/03/2004 3:59:06 AM PDT by HennepinPrisoner
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To: Victoria Delsoul; kstewskis
Did you see this?

If Moore is a practicing Catholic, then why would he be so upset at the movie, The Passion of The Christ?

It doesn't pass the smell test.

205 posted on 07/03/2004 4:06:46 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Huntingtonian
On what dimensions did it beat The Passion?! Mel's film earned over 300 million!

make that over 609 million worldwide as of June 1st

206 posted on 07/03/2004 8:40:12 AM PDT by kstewskis ("Political correctness is intellectual terrorism" Mel Gibson)
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To: NYer; Northern Yankee; Victoria Delsoul; GirlShortstop
"You definitely felt the hostility in the room toward traditional Christians," said Just, a former liberal, now-conservative Democrat – and also a Christian. "At one point, Moore boasted that his film so infuriated one man that he threw his shoe at the image of George W. Bush on the screen."

/snip

Moore boasted: "I've been feeling for a month He's been very upset at the [selling of] that movie. So I think it was His own little payback this weekend."

chilling

This was my exact thought when I read this.

207 posted on 07/03/2004 8:48:57 AM PDT by kstewskis ("Political correctness is intellectual terrorism" Mel Gibson)
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To: freedumb2003; Damocles
The only place I can see Michael Moore possibly beat the Passion was average $/Screen, and at that it was only by $4.00.

Which makes it easy to do, when you show it in a few small theaters.

I know there have been a few threads on FR mentioning this point, but I've been too busy fumigating and sprinkling holy water my computer after Moore's name appears on it. So I don't have them book marked.

208 posted on 07/03/2004 8:53:04 AM PDT by kstewskis ("Political correctness is intellectual terrorism" Mel Gibson)
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To: churchillbuff
The man has totally lost it!
(Then again, did he ever "have it"?)
209 posted on 07/03/2004 9:05:04 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: churchillbuff; KJacob
"Fahrenheit 9/11" beat out Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ."

In Moore's living room, maybe?

Linguistic prostitution - the last refuge of the liberals.

210 posted on 07/03/2004 9:21:38 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Happy Birthday, America!)
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To: Northern Yankee; kstewskis
Did you see this?

Yes, I posted yesterday.

If Moore is a practicing Catholic, then why would he be so upset at the movie, The Passion of The Christ?

A practicing Catholic, what does it mean? Hitler and Mussolini were also Catholics. As a matter of fact, Hitler was baptized Catholic, although, he totally rejected Christianity later in life. Moore has no problem lying and making huge profits through lies, manipulation, and deceit. He has no problem hating and expressing his hate to the point of destroying names and reputations.

Definitely not the actions of a Catholic, much less of a practicing Catholic.

211 posted on 07/03/2004 9:33:00 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul ("In answer to what we promised, the infidel got his fair treatment," Al-Qaeda to wife's tearful plea)
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To: kstewskis
make that over 609 million worldwide as of June 1st

Wow! I believe it.

212 posted on 07/03/2004 9:33:57 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul ("In answer to what we promised, the infidel got his fair treatment," Al-Qaeda to wife's tearful plea)
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To: ChadGore
The problem with the moore statement is that it's a lie.

Wait a minute. It's just as factual as his 'documentary'.
213 posted on 07/03/2004 9:41:54 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: churchillbuff

Moore suffers from reptile dysfunction.


214 posted on 07/03/2004 9:44:03 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Clara Lou
If this obese liar ever has a stroke because of the fat sludge cutting off the free flow of blood to his brain, I have to admit, I will smile.

God forgive me, but I hate it when liberals make me feel this way.

215 posted on 07/03/2004 9:49:14 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: churchillbuff

Michael Moore - cinema's answer to Baghdad Bob


216 posted on 07/03/2004 10:05:21 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Let freedom reign - George W. Bush, American President)
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To: 3catsanadog
God forgive me...
Yes, I know the feeling.
217 posted on 07/03/2004 10:41:31 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: randog

OH shoot! I wish he had held up his challenge. Would have made for an interesting post!!


218 posted on 07/03/2004 10:56:14 AM PDT by sandlady
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To: mewzilla
And BTW, anyone ever find out who was buying up all those blocks of tickets...?

Calculate: blocks of tickets sold + entire audiences cheering with standing ovations = ????? Hmm--that's a tough one.

A. Hollyweird celebrities

B. DNC

C. Michael Moron

D. All of the above

219 posted on 07/03/2004 11:01:28 AM PDT by sandlady
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To: churchillbuff

My hubby likes to say, in about 40 years (maybe less for the blimp formerly known as Myke al-Moor), he'll know the truth. He won't like it, but he'll know it. And confess that Jesus is Lord.


220 posted on 07/03/2004 11:09:00 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Freepmail me if you'd like to read one of my Christian historical romance novels!)
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