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Moore claims victory over 'Passion of Christ'
Worldnetdaily ^ | July 1, 04 | Worldnetdaily

Posted on 07/02/2004 10:03:19 AM PDT by churchillbuff

ASHLAND, Ore. – Whooping and hollering greeted Michael Moore's statement that his virulently anti-Bush film "Fahrenheit 9/11" beat out Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ."

"I think Jesus had something to do with that," said Moore during Monday's meeting at Southern Oregon University in Ashland, Ore., part of a national event sponsored by MoveOn.org. Comparing the initial attendance stats for the two films – and accentuating the one or two measures by which, says Moore, "Fahrenheit" edged out "Passion" – Moore boasted: "I've been feeling for a month He's been very upset at the [selling of] that movie. So I think it was His own little payback this weekend."

A self-described "practicing Catholic," Moore said his film barely nosed out "The Passion," but what surprised WND columnist and talk show host Bob Just, who attended Monday's meeting and recorded it, was the wild cheering at the news.

"You definitely felt the hostility in the room toward traditional Christians," said Just, a former liberal, now-conservative Democrat – and also a Christian. "At one point, Moore boasted that his film so infuriated one man that he threw his shoe at the image of George W. Bush on the screen."

"Hot Enough For You?" screamed the headline of one campus flyer. "Then Organize." Moveon.org's flyer was even more blunt: "Michael Moore wants to know: Are you ready to turn up the heat on George W. Bush?"

The Oregon campus meeting Just attended was billed as a "House Party." Local attendance was estimated at several hundred people, but according to Moveon.org, nationwide there were enough people connected online that night to fill a football stadium.

"In living rooms and meeting halls across America," proclaimed the flyer, "we'll be joining Michael for a live, interactive, on-line discussion of his film. You'll also be give an opportunity to make a real difference in this election, by joining in an intensive voter registration and education drive."

Most of Moore's conversation was geared toward taking not only the presidency this fall, but perhaps even Congress as well.

A large screen displayed the computer hook-up as the audience looked on. At several points the transmission went down or became garbled.

Students and others who came for the promised "open discussion in film rhetoric" were first heavily pressured to join the Moveon effort. Each audience participating was asked to collect its group leader statistics and upload them in the computer, which flashed the results by locality. Likewise, each group was called on to recruit more people and expand its numbers.

"Take that day off on November second," Moore exhorted. "And take, you know, take five non-voters to the polls. You know who they are. They're your friends, your family members, people you go to school with. Just commit now to convincing them. Tell them, you're at work or whatever, it's at noontime, tell them, 'Hey, let's all, come on with me. I'll buy everybody lunch,' you know, or if it's at night, you know – "free beer for everybody that comes vote with me right now!" You know, just get creative. Do whatever it is you gotta do!"

Republicans, says Just, have been trying recently to write off the "Gore-Moore left" as a "coalition of the wild-eyed." But, "it is more serious than that. All you have to do is see Moore's movie and you'll know you've entered into an alternate reality," adds Just, who has a masters degree in film from NYU Institute of Film and Television.

In fact, even reputable liberal pundits are stepping forward to denounce "Fahrenheit's" inaccuracy, from Christopher Hitchen to Ellen Goodman to The Washington Post's Richard Cohen.

"Moore's depiction of why Bush went to war is so silly and so incomprehensible that it is easily dismissed," Cohen wrote in yesterday's Post. "As far as I can tell, it is a farrago of conspiracy theories. But nothing is said about multiple U.N. resolutions violated by Iraq or the depredations of Saddam Hussein. In fact, prewar Iraq is depicted as some sort of Arab folk festival – lots of happy, smiling indigenous people. Was there no footage of a Kurdish village that had been gassed? This is obscenity by omission."

Hitchens called the film a "sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness," while Newsweek joined in this week with a headline, "More Distortions from Michael Moore."

"But remember this," Moore told the youthful audience, which filled the Brit Ballroom on the Southern Oregon campus. "The other side, they are organized! And they're really, I mean, they are historically, uh, much better at this than we are. They are up at the crack of dawn, uh, trying to figure out what group of Americans they're going to hurt today."


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To: Cloud William

Did you count Gluttony twice or three times? You should have.


181 posted on 07/02/2004 6:25:34 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: skeeter

Frat kids?

Liberals hate frats, on every campus I have ever seen. Frats are generally pretty conservative. Working on a conservative paper in college, I met more kneejerk rightists from frats than CR or even YAF.

You must have gone to some school where the frats were all like Lambda Lambda Lambda.


182 posted on 07/02/2004 6:29:14 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: churchillbuff
Republicans, says Just, have been trying recently to write off the "Gore-Moore left" as a "coalition of the wild-eyed." But, "it is more serious than that. All you have to do is see Moore's movie and you'll know you've entered into an alternate reality," adds Just, who has a masters degree in film from NYU Institute of Film and Television.

Definitely moore serious. Alternate reality is closer. Raving lunatics is warmer yet. I just hope young voters can see the froth on their jowls and recognize the symptoms before they get bit.

183 posted on 07/02/2004 6:35:38 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (If it seems like a good idea, imagine it diabolically twisted in the hands of your worst enemies.)
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To: justice14; KJacob
Where and How??? Last I checked F9/11 is no where close to the numbers of The Passion.

Something does not smell right.

Look at BoxOfficeMojo number for Moores film. All the box office numbers from the beginning have "(estimate)" after them. It looks like no audited box office numbers have been submitted, which is very unusual, and more than slightly fishy. Normally, you only see "estimate" on the weekend numbers, and see definitive weekend numbers on Monday. But Fahrenheit has gone for 9 days without official numbers
184 posted on 07/02/2004 6:45:58 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I can see it now SB XXXX: An act entitled "The Michael Moore Memorial Anti-Cholesterol Junk Food Access Preservation Act" to ensure everyone eats only food with no caloric value whatsoever, for the purpose of taxing the bejeebers out of lean red meat, and other purposes.


185 posted on 07/02/2004 6:47:43 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (If it seems like a good idea, imagine it diabolically twisted in the hands of your worst enemies.)
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To: cnkie

He practices with the NAMBLA priests.


186 posted on 07/02/2004 6:49:55 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (I was elected in AZ as an alt delegate to the Convention. I'M GOING TO NY)
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To: KJacob
"Where and How??? Last I checked F9/11 is no where close to the numbers of The Passion."

This is really no different than Al Gore claiming that he won the Presidency.

Or Saddam claiming that he is still the President of Iraq.

187 posted on 07/02/2004 6:52:33 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: lowbridge
Congratulations. You've all done what Moore exactly wanted you to do when he made this statement,

By bitching about him on OUR board? Don't think so. Spiderman's eat his lunch anyway.

188 posted on 07/02/2004 7:03:14 PM PDT by j_tull ("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
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To: j_tull

eat=eating


189 posted on 07/02/2004 7:07:27 PM PDT by j_tull ("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
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To: HungarianGypsy
"I think Jesus had something to do with that,"...

Stand back, there is going to be one hell of a lightening strike on his lard butt.
190 posted on 07/02/2004 7:12:33 PM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (Helen Thomas, Molly Ivins, Maureen Dowd - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: Cvengr

couldn't agree more


191 posted on 07/02/2004 7:33:03 PM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: cnkie
Michael Moore is a 'practicing catholic'?

Sure he is!? Which of the 10 Commandments does he follow? The one that hits me right on is "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

Anyone else?

192 posted on 07/02/2004 7:47:46 PM PDT by AnimalLover
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To: SierraWasp

yeah!


193 posted on 07/02/2004 8:22:46 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: narses; Loyalist; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; AAABEST; Canticle_of_Deborah; ultima ratio

Ping. And ping your own pingees.


194 posted on 07/02/2004 9:09:46 PM PDT by TradicalRC (From big government conservatives, good Lord deliver us.)
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To: Desdemona
Michael Moore is a practicing Catholic? He hasn't been fasting, that's for sure.

Good one, Des. Santa's gonna be good to you this year, I just know it.

195 posted on 07/02/2004 9:12:33 PM PDT by TradicalRC (From big government conservatives, good Lord deliver us.)
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To: churchillbuff; All

My view is the less said about Moore the better. He got where he is with his stupid movie by stirring up controversy. This is part of the publicity campaign. Ignore this twit and he'll go away.


196 posted on 07/02/2004 9:22:06 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: nosofar
Delusions of grandeur.

Actually, Mr. Moore suffers from delusions of adequacy.

197 posted on 07/02/2004 9:35:02 PM PDT by TradicalRC (From big government conservatives, good Lord deliver us.)
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To: lowbridge

Pavlov...Pavlov...Boy that name sure rings a bell.


198 posted on 07/02/2004 9:46:48 PM PDT by TradicalRC (From big government conservatives, good Lord deliver us.)
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To: churchillbuff

Satan normally does try to claim victory over God and Moore has proven to the world to be just that!


199 posted on 07/02/2004 9:54:00 PM PDT by Lucky2 ( 2004 is the year the Yankees will win the World Series and GWB will be re-elected!)
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To: nosofar
After further thought, may be he'll start a new religion.

Like Moore-manism, maybe? Perhaps Moore-slim would be more apropros.

200 posted on 07/02/2004 9:57:22 PM PDT by TradicalRC (From big government conservatives, good Lord deliver us.)
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