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1 posted on 07/02/2004 6:00:10 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...
Dinesh D'Souza:

The arguments on behalf of freedom, and of America, are not only for the benefit of Muslims in the Arab world; they are also for the benefit of people in America and the West. To help counter the anti-Americanism that we see from Europeans and sometimes even from Americans, we can confidently show our allies, our citizens, and our idealistic young people that America is not simply richer, more varied, and more tolerant, it is also morally superior to the fundamentalists' version of Islamic society. It was Edmund Burke a long time ago who wrote, "To love our country, our country ought to be lovely." Burke's point is that the highest form of patriotism is not based on the dogmatic assertion, "My country, right or wrong." Nor is the highest form of patriotism based on loving your country simply because it is yours. Rather, the highest form of patriotism is based on loving your country because it is good.

In my view America, for all its flaws and weaknesses, can meet Burke's test. America merits a rational patriotism that can confront, and answer, the strongest criticisms of this country. Ultimately America is worthy of our love and sacrifice because, more than any other society, it makes possible for its citizens the good life, and equally important, the life that is good.

Interesting article PING. !

This ping list is not author-specific for articles I'd like to share. Some for perfect moral clarity, some for provocative thoughts; or simply interesting articles I'd hate to miss myself. (I don't have to agree with the author 100% to feel the need to share an article.) I will try not to abuse the ping list and not to annoy you too much, but on some days there is more of good stuff that is worthy attention. I keep separate PING lists for my favorite authors Victor Davis Hanson, Lee Harris, David Warren, Orson Scott Card. You are welcome in or out, just freepmail me (and note which PING list you are talking about).

2 posted on 07/02/2004 6:04:38 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik

America is good and that is why America deserves to be loved. If more Americans would love her goodness instead of criticizing every flaw and vice she has under the sun, her light would change the world for the benefit of all mankind.


3 posted on 07/02/2004 6:04:59 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tolik

America is the most successful society ever. Any and all Muslim societies are miserable failures, at the bottom of the heap in every way.


4 posted on 07/02/2004 6:08:03 AM PDT by tkathy (nihilism: absolute destructiveness toward the world at large and oneself)
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To: Tolik

I love the profoundness of D'Souza's writing. He always gets and explains one layer deeper than anyone else I've read.


5 posted on 07/02/2004 6:11:08 AM PDT by blanknoone (The WOT can only be won abroad, and can only be lost at home.)
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To: Tolik
A critical feature of American and Western culture is the high value we place on learning, freedom of inquiry, open debate and science.

We do not appeal to a religious authority to resolve public policy debates (although our public policy debates are informed by religious values, and religious authorities such as Catholic bishops are free to participate in debate).

We have a strong belief that our lives can be improved by hard work and through science and technology. The tremendous material and technological success of the West is a direct result of this. The Cassini probe that entered Saturn orbit this week is a beautiful reminder of why the West is so powerful -- Islam long ago abandoned the scientific curiousity it had in the late medieval period.

9 posted on 07/02/2004 6:28:20 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: Tolik

B4L8r


11 posted on 07/02/2004 6:30:09 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Tolik

Wow! This goes straight to the heart of the problem like nothing I have read for a long time.


15 posted on 07/02/2004 6:58:17 AM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: Dajjal; Siobhan

Dinesh D'Souza on Sayyid Qutb ping!


18 posted on 07/02/2004 7:09:28 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Tolik
Simply fabulous.

"Salvation for Muslims, no less than for Jews and Christians, is based on the soul choosing freely to follow God."

Some would probably quibble with the above.

 

20 posted on 07/02/2004 7:19:04 AM PDT by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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There is a story in the Islamic classical tradition about a man and a woman who came to the prophet Muhammad and said, "Messenger of Allah, purify us." Muhammad asked, "From what am I to purify you?" They replied, "From adultery." Muhammed asked the two people whether they were insane or drunk. Assured that they were not, Muhammad asked them again, "What have you done?" They confessed that they had committed adultery. Then Muhammad gave the order, and the two were stoned to death. While the couple was being buried, onlookers scorned them, but Muhammad chided the scoffers. The couple had repented, he said, and now they were with Allah.

If this is the example of a virtuous society, I find it difficult to take seriously. I think the vast majority of Americans would find this grotesque.

21 posted on 07/02/2004 7:21:22 AM PDT by Polonius (It's called logic, it'll help you.)
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He nails what Islam is without cutting to the truth. Islam is phony in every area. Phony virtue, phony prophet, phony god.

In truth they worship Satan and are the children of Satan. They call Allah the greatest deceiver of them all. We rightly call Satan the great deceiver. What small part of the Old Testament they use, they twist into a lie, thereby calling God a liar. His son they reduce to a prophet and lie about his divinity.

Lying and Islam go hand in hand. Islam is a cult that views lying as a useful tool for allah, while God has made truth an essential foundation, Jesus said of himself, I am, the Way, the Truth, and the Life, announcing truth as one of the identifying characteristics and foundation of the godhead. We are at war with the ideology of Satan, a phony piety that esteems the lie as a fundamental foundation, that indulges the blood lust of brutal killers and feathers the nest of Satan's clerics.
26 posted on 07/02/2004 7:51:12 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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By contrast, the theocratic and authoritarian society that Islamic fundamentalists advocate undermines the possibility of virtue.

It is only by making a choice between life and death, between truth and lies that virtue can be discerned. I have often thought it a lie that muslims have high regard for their women by leaving them covered in public. More likely this is to prevent the male from becoming overcome with the lust in his heart. This is not virtue, it is more like prohibition.

29 posted on 07/02/2004 8:51:47 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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Even the church, Qutb commented, has become a place for amusement and social interaction rather than worship.

As opposed to what, THE MOSQUE, which has become a place for incitement to murder ???!!!!!

30 posted on 07/03/2004 7:26:22 PM PDT by happygrl
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