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How the West Grew Rich
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 7/02/04 | Dinesh D'Souza

Posted on 07/02/2004 3:57:55 AM PDT by kattracks

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1 posted on 07/02/2004 3:57:55 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Dinesh....daring to go where most men fear to tread....


2 posted on 07/02/2004 4:00:52 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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One can do no better to follow the path of Western success over the millenia than by reading James Burke's The Day The Universe Changed. He shows us how one event in the life of the West led to another and changed the way we saw the world and ourselves. Its the capacity of the West to reinvent itself that has made it such a successful civilization par excellence. And it that genius of invention that lies in America today.
3 posted on 07/02/2004 4:04:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Speaking of James Burke,his "Connections" series is awesome.


4 posted on 07/02/2004 4:11:36 AM PDT by wolficatZ (><)))*>____\0/____/!__"ABBOTT!!!!"__)
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To: kattracks
“Champ, what did you think of Africa?” Ali replied, “Thank God my grand-daddy got on that boat!” Ali’s point was that although the institution of slavery was oppressive for the slaves, paradoxically it benefited their descendants because slavery was the transmission belt that brought African Americans into the orbit of Western freedom.

I would bring this up (although I didn’t know that Ali had said it) with some neighbors when I lived in a “ghetto”. Most didn’t want to hear it and would still rant about the evil White Men owing them for slavery - ranting while setting in a White Man’s apartment and drinking a White Man’s beer.
There rants were often cut short when they realized where they were.
5 posted on 07/02/2004 4:19:11 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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I believe that it was Dinesh who also observed that almost all the successful countries /civilizations were all located north of the equator?

Guess everything south of the equator is backwards?


6 posted on 07/02/2004 4:23:25 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: kattracks

Yikes! Good read!


7 posted on 07/02/2004 4:25:26 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: kattracks

bump for later


8 posted on 07/02/2004 4:42:55 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: wolficatZ

Speaking of James Burke,his "Connections" series is awesome.

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Ditto! Do those shows ever get replayed? I rarely leave FNS! LOL!


9 posted on 07/02/2004 4:44:41 AM PDT by maica
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“Champ, what did you think of Africa?” Ali replied, “Thank God my grand-daddy got on that boat!”

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This is one quote that should be taught when important quotes are being taught.

We can ALL say the same, because if our forebears were among the "haves" wherever they lived, they most likely would have stayed there. (Yes, I know that Africans did not volunteer to come, but, some Africans are slaves to other Africans even today.)

10 posted on 07/02/2004 4:49:44 AM PDT by maica
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Well, most of the worlds landmass is in the northern hemisphere; and a larger percentage of the southern hemisphere's land is of marginal value - think Antarctica, the Australian desert, the tropical rainforest in South America + Africa, and so on. This alone would make for more successful northern countries, as there are more of them.

The northern hemisphere benifits from the massive east-west axis stretching from Japan though China, India, the Middle East, and into Europe, where is was fairly easy for food plants & domestic animals to be relocated(ie you can grow the same food plants almost anywhere in this area), and where the climate is the best for large scale human habitation. You'll notice that most of the worlds major civilizations started in this area. The second largest horizontal axis on earth is in the United States & Southern Canada.

11 posted on 07/02/2004 5:06:40 AM PDT by DreadCthulhu
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fascinating look here too:

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0%2C1284%2C52594%2C00.html

"Knowledge Web" is the pet project of James Burke, an Oxford-educated historian whose fascination with technology resulted in Connections, a television series that explored the strange links between technological breakthroughs and historical events.

Knowledge Web (K-Web) is intended to be the visual and virtual extension of almost three decades of Burke's attempts to show how all knowledge is somehow connected to all other knowledge.

The not-for-profit site is being built by about 100 volunteers from around the world, but more helping hands are needed.

K-Web project manager Patrick McKercher said K-Web currently could really use programmers who can work with Java, XSLT and XML. Experienced researchers and writers are also wanted. Volunteers can sign up here.


12 posted on 07/02/2004 5:22:20 AM PDT by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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To: maica

I have a few episodes of Connections I taped off TLC a few years ago. Wish I had the whole series on dvd.


13 posted on 07/02/2004 5:27:13 AM PDT by wolficatZ (><)))*>____\0/___/!__"ABBOTT!!!!"__)
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To: kattracks


14 posted on 07/02/2004 5:31:22 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Smartaleck
I believe that it was Dinesh who also observed that almost all the successful countries /civilizations were all located north of the equator?

Guess everything south of the equator is backwards?

I think that Dr. Walter Williams stated a more likely reason in a recent article. He believes the reason for the success of the West is due to the combination of liberty, freedom and captitalism.

This makes quite a bit of sense. Liberty and freedom grant a person the opportunity to succeed or fail. Add property rights to the mix, and a person has incentive to succeed. Lots of people succeeding and producing brings prosperity to the society. On the other hand, when you have a collective society, which may be required for survival, for a short time and for small groups, you will invariably wind up with people who have no incentive to produce, and will wind up with more and more people who either do nothing, or produce the bare minimum. At the beginning of a collective society, there may be incentive in that if they don't produce, the people will die, which seems to be a pretty good incentive. The problem with collectivism is that it stagnates society. The key to the "success" of a collective society is that it can only exist for a short time before it collapses. And the greater the population, the shorter the period it will exist, without needing force to keep the society running.

And that's the key... When you look at most African nations, they're actually quite rich in natural resources. However the societies that are running those nations are killing the people.

Mark

15 posted on 07/02/2004 5:37:40 AM PDT by MarkL (The meek shall inherit the earth... But usually in plots 6' x 3' x 6' deep...)
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Dinesh D’Souza

Isn't he Indian?
16 posted on 07/02/2004 5:42:02 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: DreadCthulhu

hmmmm........I think there's a bit more to it. Like gov't and culture.

Reminds me of Sam Kinison talking about sending aid to people living in the African deserts. We don't need to send food, we need to send u-hauls so they can move to where the food is!


17 posted on 07/02/2004 6:19:20 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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Isn't he Indian?

No, D'Souza means son of John Phillips Souza, the famous patriot and composer of marching songs :-)
18 posted on 07/02/2004 6:19:21 AM PDT by rdax
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To: Smartaleck

I agree with that culture & government is also very important - for example, the Middle East got a good head start on civilization, but they squandered that lead due to overcontrolling theocratic governments. Just pointing out that climate & geography in certain areas are just better suited for human habitation, and spread of civilzation.


19 posted on 07/02/2004 7:38:16 AM PDT by DreadCthulhu
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I believe that it was Dinesh who also observed that almost all the successful countries /civilizations were all located north of the equator?

hmmm.. lessee: Sumerian, Akkadian, Egyptian, Indian, Chinese, Persian, Greek, Roman, Western. All northern Hemisphere. Kind of hard on the South Africans, Australians, Argentines, Chileans etc.
20 posted on 07/02/2004 7:38:58 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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