I feel better now.
1 posted on
07/02/2004 12:58:32 AM PDT by
Jaysun
To: Jaysun
Thanks for posting. I have printed out your chart and will post it in a conspicuous Lazy Liberal Zone...
2 posted on
07/02/2004 1:08:25 AM PDT by
endthematrix
(To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
To: Jaysun
Bookmarking this info. The liberal bartender at work is going to HATE me. I mean, even more.
/john
3 posted on
07/02/2004 1:10:03 AM PDT by
JRandomFreeper
(But what do I know, I'm just a cook. No disguta conmigo!)
To: Jaysun
To: Jaysun
Success yes. Astounding success? Let me think about that.
7 posted on
07/02/2004 1:43:39 AM PDT by
luvbach1
(Leftists don't acknowledge that Reagan won the cold war because they rooted for the other side.)
To: Jaysun
Many in the media fit the description below:
Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
I don't think it is wise to take fools too seriously. I prefer the divine media of absolute truth.
Psalm 37
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
To: Jaysun
What makes Iraq anything less than an astounding victory? Nothing. Iraq has been an astounding victory from the day we crossed the border to the day we handed the keys to Saddam's cell to an Arab prime minister. The casualties surprised only about a dozen "journalists" at the NY Times. The rest of us knew it was a war.
90% of the media coverage has been democrat sympathizers looking for a quagmire, and if they didn't find one they were just going to have to invent one.
23 posted on
07/02/2004 3:51:15 AM PDT by
Taliesan
(fiction police)
To: Jaysun
25 posted on
07/02/2004 4:12:40 AM PDT by
auboy
To: Jaysun
This is one of the finest vanity posts I've read on FR.
Well done.
While reading it, I expected you to bring up the casualties from past wars, which is a valid point, but it has been done already. The table with the non-combat deaths is even better at driving the point across.
I would add to your list that we've ended the embargo on Iraq, we've exposed the corruption of the UN, we've found some of the WMDs, Libya has seen the light, North Korea will think twice before rattling its swords, we've removed the main training ground for terrorism, and terror attacks on Israelis are way down in numbers.
Its probably best to think of the war in Iraq like removing a tumor from a patient (Saddam=tumor, Iraq=patient). Nobody wants an operation, but its necessary. Its uncomfortable for the patient. There will be a recovery period during which there will be some discomfort. There may be some minor side effects. But in the long run its to the patient's benefit.
In this case, the "doctor" has performed flawlessly. At this point, its up to the "patient" to continue with the recovery process. The "doctor" and "staff" need to help with the recovery, but the outlook for a 100% recovery is good.
26 posted on
07/02/2004 4:22:07 AM PDT by
kidd
To: Jaysun
I have often wondered about this. Thanks for posting.
To: Jaysun
There have been some sad, heartbreaking times and a few moments where the heartrate has risen, but....
Iraq is free now. The Iraqis are happy. The lamestream media never says much about that, but the majority of them are delighted. Thrilled.
They're going to vote next year. In a real election, not some Saddam-induced sham/ego-trip.
29 posted on
07/02/2004 7:45:01 AM PDT by
Allegra
(This dog bite me)
To: Jaysun
648 whatever, how many of our enemies have been killed?That's the number I'm interested in.
30 posted on
07/02/2004 7:53:13 AM PDT by
edchambers
(Where are we going and why am I in this hand-basket?)
To: Jaysun
The average number of deaths by accident or illness over the above 10 years is 689 per year. During the first year of combat in Iraq the number of deaths was 648. In short, youre more likely to die from an accident or an illness in the military than you are from a quagmire in Iraq.You cannot make this comparison. The 10 year average is for the ENTIRE military (1.3 million). The number of deaths in Iraq is out of 125,000 troops. A person stationed in Grand Forks, ND has zero chance of being a combat fatality.
I'm also willing to bet that the accident rate in Iraq is greater than the 10 year average as well.
That may be splitting hairs. But combat situations should never be compared to peacetime situations. I also believe comparisons like this trivializes the sacrifices of our people in combat, regardless of the intent.
The only reason to go to war is because it is the right thing to do. How the war is played out has nothing to do with it. Once the decision is made, the war must be seen through to victory. Because in the end, how well we succeed in warfare is not justification for the war itself. For example, we didn't know how WW2 was going to turn out but we entered it because it was the right thing to do. The casualty rate was higher than this Iraq war but WW2 was still a resounding success.
I don't mean to be harsh. I'm trying to make your argument stronger.
32 posted on
07/02/2004 8:36:55 AM PDT by
rudypoot
(Rat line = Routes that foreign fighters use to enter Iraq.)
To: Jaysun
Good find and good reporting. Something the lame stream media just doesn't understand anymore. If it is NOT on their agenda it doesn't get reported. The ONLY conclusion that can be drawn from the losses we have taken in Iraq is "MIRACULOUS". Any student in the history of warfare, and any veteran of any war will agree.
43 posted on
07/02/2004 12:59:21 PM PDT by
PISANO
(NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
To: Jaysun
47 posted on
07/02/2004 8:02:35 PM PDT by
VOA
To: Jaysun; doug from upland
Don't be shy. Bump the sucker. :)
Bump this sucker.
49 posted on
09/12/2004 8:24:52 PM PDT by
Jaysun
(The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action)
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