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Kerry cited in Catholic heresy case
Washington Times ^ | 7/1/04 | Julia Duin

Posted on 07/01/2004 4:22:11 AM PDT by Elkiejg

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:42:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A Catholic lawyer has filed heresy charges against Sen. John Kerry with the Archdiocese of Boston, accusing the Democratic presidential candidate of bringing "most serious scandal to the American public" by receiving Holy Communion as a pro-choice Catholic.

The 18-page document was sent to the archdiocese June 14, but released to the public only yesterday by Marc Balestrieri, a Los Angeles-based canon lawyer and an assistant judge with the Archdiocese of Los Angeles' tribunal, an ecclesiastical court.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; kerry
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To: eastsider

Based on what chatter I have picked up, that has not been confirmed on paper. Neither has there been confirmation whether Kerry and his current "wife" were married in accord with Catholic sacramental rites.


61 posted on 07/01/2004 9:41:30 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
It seems to me that the granting of an annulment should be a matter of public record, seeing as it would affect the entire community. The fact that no one in the Chancery can confirm whether Kerry was granted an annulment strikes me as irregular.

I think I'll pose the public-record question to one of the canon lawyers at EWTN, and will get back to you with whatever response I receive.

62 posted on 07/01/2004 9:56:20 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: eastsider

One would think the marriage certificate (with Mrs. Heinz)would be around somewhere. Although...maybe they got married in Vegas or abroad. One wonders...where did they do pre-Cana? Apparently he takes advice from the kook priest, Fr. Drinan, also a liberal/socialist pro-abortion nut. That speaks volumes.


63 posted on 07/01/2004 10:01:08 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Elkiejg

If O'Malley doesn't come out in agreement with this suit, we'll know he's been bought and paid for.


64 posted on 07/01/2004 10:01:41 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod ('I went to Vietnam, yada yada yada, I want to be President...")
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To: Elkiejg

Most Catholics could care less because they are Demoncrats.


65 posted on 07/01/2004 10:05:47 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: eastsider
While we're doing Kerry's rap sheet, did he ever get an annulment for his first marriage? 60 posted on 07/01/2004 9:25:39 AM PDT by eastsider

The Kerry rap sheet would seem to include violations in the following areas:

abortion
sacrilege
scandal
questionable anti-Catholic Secret Society memberships
marital irregularities
and abomination (harvesting embryonic stem cells)

66 posted on 07/01/2004 10:06:03 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: eastsider
And...
Heresy
67 posted on 07/01/2004 10:10:10 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: eastsider
While we're doing Kerry's rap sheet, did he ever get an annulment for his first marriage?

FWIW, the Catholic League says that Kerry eventually said that he did get the annulment. I don't know if he produced documentation or not, but unless he's lying through his teeth, his first marriage was apparently found null.

68 posted on 07/01/2004 10:31:05 AM PDT by Campion
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

69 posted on 07/01/2004 10:32:35 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: eastsider
Abortion
Sacrilege
Scandal

The acrostic pretty much sums up John Kerry.

70 posted on 07/01/2004 10:38:41 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Campion

The Catholic League's a good source. I can't imagine that William Donohue would simply repeat Kerry's assertion without having checked it out. Thanks for the lead.


71 posted on 07/01/2004 10:48:18 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; Coleus; narses; Polycarp IV; NYer
"Let's see how the bishops handle this."

For one it will at least keep this in the public at least through media that care enough to cover it.

Kerry is expected to get 52% of the "Catholic" vote, same as Algore. Beelzebubba Klinton won a majority both times as well.

The bishops (sigh) will form a commission and issue a statement that they will bring it up for discussion at their next frat party conference. Then they'll form another commission and consult with Rome.

Expect to get the final decision after the 2008 elections.

The Church Burns and Babies Die while bishops sit idly by.

72 posted on 07/01/2004 10:54:30 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: eastsider

I could be wrong, but I've always understood that it was Chancery policy everywhere not to comment on annulment proceedings.


73 posted on 07/01/2004 11:23:22 AM PDT by maryz
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To: detch
It is sad to see him fold his tent like he has done since...

I wouldn't give up on O'Malley just yet. He did state publicly that pro-abort pols should refrain from receiving Communion. And here in Boston and MA generally, we have lots of self-styled "Catholics" who are pro-abortion; they were, of course, given a lot of cover, first by Drinan, who I gather invented the "personally opposed but" argument, and later by Bernardin and his "seamless garment."

Kerry's normal church (if you can call it that) is the Paulist Center -- owned and operated by the Paulists, and not under O'Malley's direct control -- calls itself on its website "a worship community in the Roman Catholic tradition," whatever that means.

I think O'Malley's still getting the lay of the land here. I wouldn't want his job.

74 posted on 07/01/2004 11:32:48 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

I'd be shocked if the records of the actual proceedings were made public. All I'm looking for is whether an annulment was granted or not. If marriages are made public by the Chanceries -- and they are -- I can't think of any reason why annulments shouldn't be, too.


75 posted on 07/01/2004 11:35:26 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: maryz
Kerry's normal church (if you can call it that) is the Paulist Center -- owned and operated by the Paulists, and not under O'Malley's direct control -- calls itself on its website "a worship community in the Roman Catholic tradition," whatever that means.
According to Fr. Robert Nugent's c.v., "his pioneering work has been recognized with awards from many groups including Washington P-FLAG, Yale Divinity School, the Paulist Center in Boston, Dignity USA and several Dignity chapters."

Near as I can tell, the Paulist Center in Boston is "a worship community" in the Rainbow tradition ...

76 posted on 07/01/2004 11:50:57 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Elkiejg

Bumping!


77 posted on 07/01/2004 12:15:02 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: eastsider

I could have been clearer about what I meant. As I said, I don't know much about it, but I do recall reading somewhere that chanceries don't comment about annulments at all, except to the parties involved. They won't even confirm that one was sought, and they don't tell outsiders the decision.


78 posted on 07/01/2004 12:30:43 PM PDT by maryz
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To: eastsider
Near as I can tell, the Paulist Center in Boston is "a worship community" in the Rainbow tradition ...

Sounds like you're right! (Even worse than I thought! Though it shouldn't surprise me . . . )

79 posted on 07/01/2004 12:32:14 PM PDT by maryz
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To: cpforlife.org
If they were going to use baby whales or baby bunny rabbits for medical research experiments, PETA, Kerry's supporters and all his eco-friendly ski pals would be up in arms whining and screaming about how HORRIBLE and inhumane it was what they were planning to do to animals.
80 posted on 07/01/2004 12:40:08 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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