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Washington State prisoners losing porn, smokes
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Posted on 06/30/2004 10:55:51 PM PDT by SeattleNeedsHelp

EVERETT, Wash. -- Washington became the latest state to ban pornography in prison on Wednesday, and prisoners will soon lose their smokes, too.

The state prison system's new mail policy, barring any pictures showing full frontal nudity, went into effect May 1 but gave inmates two months get rid of their porn, Lynne DeLano, assistant deputy secretary of the Corrections Department, said Wednesday.

The ban follows at least five years of complaints from prison staff who said pornography sometimes made prisoners aggressive and created a hostile work environment, she said.

"It flew in the face of the principles of rehabilitation," DeLano said. "A lot of it that was coming in was fairly degrading, especially to women."

Several states have similar porn bans, including Alabama and Arizona, and about half the states have smoking bans, DeLano said. Washington's prison smoking ban is scheduled to take effect Nov. 1.

The bans affects all 16,000 inmates in Washington's 15 prisons.

Any prisoners caught with the contraband will likely receive light punishments for their first offenses, but could lose privileges if they keep getting caught. Sanctions would be greater for inmates who traffic in contraband.

Monroe prison inmate Robert Vederoff, 30, of Seattle, has served 10 years for second-degree murder. He said he disagrees with the smoking ban, but understands the health benefits involved.

The pornography ban, however, baffles him.

"Do I see the benefits for inmates? Absolutely not," he told The Herald of Everett.

Darren Sherman, serving life without parole for aggravated murder, said his box full of pornographic magazines help him momentarily escape his miserable existence. He doesn't plan to turn them in until the guards demand them.

"I'm not going to fight them over something they are going to take anyway. It's a lost battle," he said. "But I'm not just volunteering to give them up."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: inmates; smoking; smokingbans
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Don't want to drop the soap in these showers.
1 posted on 06/30/2004 10:55:51 PM PDT by SeattleNeedsHelp
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They obviously did not hear about the recent Supreme Court ruling. The ability to find porn on the internet is now a constitutional right.


2 posted on 06/30/2004 11:00:25 PM PDT by microgood
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Your right, and they probably have taxpayer funded high speed internet access in all cells.


3 posted on 06/30/2004 11:07:15 PM PDT by SeattleNeedsHelp
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To: SeattleNeedsHelp

Well, it'll be a busy two months, won't it?


4 posted on 06/30/2004 11:15:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: microgood

yes, but you will notice that it was also said to create a "hostile work environment." In a conflict between the right to pornography and the right of favored groups not to be offended who will win? Which side will the ACLU take? This one could tear the Left apart.


5 posted on 06/30/2004 11:18:37 PM PDT by byset
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To: SeattleNeedsHelp

Maybe without these perks people won't take going to prison so lightly. Now let's talk about bringing back the chain gang as one county in Arizona has done.


6 posted on 06/30/2004 11:19:49 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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Your right, and they probably have taxpayer funded high speed internet access in all cells.

LOL..You are right - broadband is going to be a constitutional right NLT end 2005.
7 posted on 06/30/2004 11:23:53 PM PDT by microgood
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To: byset
This one could tear the Left apart.

Oh yeah, they are going to have to have some kind of sit down to figure out where to go from here. No doubt the result will be bad for all of us.
8 posted on 06/30/2004 11:27:25 PM PDT by microgood
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Darren Sherman, serving life without parole for aggravated murder, said his box full of pornographic magazines help him momentarily escape his miserable existence.

"People Unclear On The Concept"

9 posted on 06/30/2004 11:28:10 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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Gee, no smokes after the finish their threesome of 'me, myself and I'!? Ain't this a revoltin' development!


10 posted on 06/30/2004 11:32:54 PM PDT by Az. Mike
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To: SeattleNeedsHelp

This news comes down on the same day as the impeached rapist himself was signing his "eye-crossingly" dull books in Seattle.

The slick one better not get arrested while he's here, considering this new prison ban. I wonder if the prisons also ban inmates from calling interns for a little not-exactly-conjugal phone sex...


11 posted on 06/30/2004 11:43:40 PM PDT by billclintonwillrotinhell
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"Darren Sherman, serving life without parole for aggravated murder, said his box full of pornographic magazines help him momentarily escape his miserable existence."

NO HELP, NO ESCAPE!! Take them away NOW!

12 posted on 07/01/2004 12:07:35 AM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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Re: hostile work environment

Why are we building prisons that guards have to (or potential) to come into contact with the inmates and possibly be overrun??

13 posted on 07/01/2004 12:10:31 AM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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I disagree with this. Both relieve tensions in a highly volitile setting. There is always an undercurrent of violence in a prison. Vices like these won't take that undercurrent away, but they may lessen it a bit.

I am against taxpayer funded porn and smokes. But if an inmate works a job at 20 cents an hour and pays for his own porn and smokes, than I say let him have it.


14 posted on 07/01/2004 12:28:24 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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And weightlifting?


15 posted on 07/01/2004 12:41:09 AM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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Hmmm. weight lifting. It fits with exercise, but if all an inmate does is lift weights all day, then he won't be working that 20 cent an hour job, and he won't be buying the vices he wants.


16 posted on 07/01/2004 1:50:17 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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Yeah, the revolving door of justice putting habitual bodybuilding criminals onto the street. Cops love tangling with thugs who can bench press a VW.


17 posted on 07/01/2004 1:59:35 AM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: SeattleNeedsHelp

Personally, I think they should take away the weightlifting equipment and give them all the tobacco and doughnuts they can eat.


18 posted on 07/01/2004 2:06:43 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi!)
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Darren Sherman, serving life without parole for aggravated murder, said his box full of pornographic magazines help him momentarily escape his miserable existence.

He's a prisoner. His existence is supposed to be miserable.

19 posted on 07/01/2004 5:46:06 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Cyclops08

Porn will lead to more violence. Now and later. Ya' know...unreleased frustration and all that stuff? Just like it does in society.
Glad you aren't a psychiatrist..LOL.

Take it all away.


20 posted on 07/01/2004 7:59:43 AM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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