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Justices Will Hear Argument on Medical Marijuana Laws
NY Times ^ | June 29, 2004 | LINDA GREENHOUSE

Posted on 06/29/2004 7:01:49 PM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON, June 28 - The Supreme Court agreed on Monday to decide whether Congress has the authority to prohibit the medical use of marijuana in states where the voters or the legislature have approved the drug's use under a doctor's care.

The case, certain to be one of the most closely watched of the court's next term, is an appeal by the Bush administration of a preliminary ruling issued last December by the federal appeals court in San Francisco. That court, finding that the federal Controlled Substances Act was "likely unconstitutional" as applied to two California patients and their suppliers of marijuana, issued an injunction that barred federal enforcement while the case proceeded.

The case was one of eight new appeals the justices granted as they began the last week of their 2003-2004 term. In addition to its implications for social policy, the case raises important federalism questions. One question is whether the power of Congress to regulate interstate commerce extends to marijuana that is cultivated for noncommercial use within the borders of a single state, never traveling in interstate commerce.

California, which adopted its Compassionate Use Act in 1996, is one of nine states that permit marijuana for medical use under some circumstances. The other eight are Alaska, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont and Washington. Similar efforts are under way in other states.

Attorney General John Ashcroft has strongly opposed the state laws. The case the Supreme Court accepted began with a confrontation between sheriff's deputies in Butte County, Calif., and federal drug agents, who both showed up at the home of Diana Monson, a patient whose severe back spasms are not helped by prescription drugs but are alleviated by marijuana, which she uses under her doctor's care. The sheriff's deputies concluded that the marijuana she was growing was legal, but the federal agents seized and destroyed her plants after a three-hour standoff with the deputies.

Ms. Monson and another patient who uses marijuana, Angel McClary Raich, sued the federal government in Federal District Court, seeking an order saying the Controlled Substances Act could not legally be applied to their marijuana use. They lost in that court but won a preliminary injunction in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, where a 2-to-1 majority found their marijuana cultivation and use to be noncommercial in character and outside the jurisdiction of Congress.

Appealing to the Supreme Court in Ashcroft v. Raich, No. 03-1454, Mr. Ashcroft is arguing that the appeals court's ruling "seriously undermines Congress's comprehensive scheme for the regulation of dangerous drugs." The brief adds: "Marijuana is a commodity that is readily purchased and sold in a well-defined market of drug trafficking," regardless of whether a particular use takes place within a state's borders.

These were among the other cases the justices added to their docket for the next term, which begins Oct. 4:

Death Penalty

For the second time in two years, the court accepted an appeal from a Texas death-row inmate, Thomas Miller-El, a black man who was tried and convicted of murder in 1986 by a jury from which the prosecutor had removed 10 of 11 black potential jurors by peremptory challenges.

Mr. Miller-El tried to challenge his conviction on the ground of prosecutorial misconduct and jury bias through a petition for a writ of habeas corpus, which the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit denied. In its ruling last year, the Supreme Court said in an 8-to-1 decision that the Fifth Circuit had failed to take full account of the evidence, and ordered it to reconsider the case. In the reconsideration, the appeals court again refused to grant habeas corpus, this time adopting the view of Justice Clarence Thomas, who had written a solitary dissent.

In his new petition, Mr. Miller-El's lawyer, Seth P. Waxman, the former solicitor general who also represented the inmate in the earlier Supreme Court appeal, told the justices that the latest decision "undermines this court's supervisory authority" and made it "critically important" for the Supreme Court to review the case again. The appeal is Miller-El v. Dretke, No. 03-9659.

Spy's Claim

Accepting an appeal by the Central Intelligence Agency, the court agreed to decide whether federal courts can consider a claim that the agency has wrongfully refused to keep a promise to provide a foreign agent with lifetime financial support in return for espionage services.

The case, Tenet v. Doe, No. 03-1395, began as a lawsuit by the foreign agent, a former high-ranking diplomat for a Communist country, and his wife, now both United States citizens. Their names were not revealed in the lawsuit, and the government has neither confirmed nor denied their claims. They said they initially received about $20,000 a year plus housing and health care. Eventually, both their services and the payments stopped and the couple, out of work, brought suit.

The Federal District Court in Seattle, in a ruling affirmed by the Ninth Circuit, has allowed the case to proceed to the pretrial discovery phase. In its appeal, the agency told the justices that this "unprecedented holding" was "manifestly wrong" and threatened to damage national security. The couple's lawyers argue that there is no danger because the appeals court invited the C.I.A. to invoke a "state secrets privilege" as the case goes forward.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: health; libertarians; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; medicine; scotus; supremecourt; wodlist
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To: Texasforever
Given their recent rulings I firmly believe they are personally stoned while hearing cases.

Given that the 9th CC was overturned twice, it was the socialist 9th CC judges that were doing the toking.

21 posted on 06/30/2004 8:59:30 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA

Well, I have, and I'll bump you to the next one who does.


22 posted on 06/30/2004 9:48:18 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: cinFLA
Licensed by the state to obey state laws. Duh...

Does that mean I don't have to obey state laws if I don't have a license? Nope! You are wrong, doctors are licensed by the state to practice medicine. You have to obey laws whether you have a license or not.

Duh yourself.

Congress as a whole doesn't have any license to practice medicine, yet the courts have found that Congress properly has the legal power to make medical decision. What is wrong with this picture? Statists might not be able to answer this question.

23 posted on 06/30/2004 9:54:03 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan
Is it the mark of a free country when a court determines that a legislative body should make medical decisions?

I think Congress has absolutely no power under Article I to decide medical matters. However, USSC and Congress subscribe to the "substantial effects" Commerce Clause sophistry and do not agree with me at this time.

Justice Thomas seems to share my views on the matter.

What do we have doctors for, licensed by the state, no less?

Agreed. State government is the proper place for regulation of medicine.

24 posted on 06/30/2004 10:12:50 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: coloradan
Well, I have, and I'll bump you to the next one who does.

I won't be holding my breath.

25 posted on 07/01/2004 6:50:17 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: coloradan
You have to obey laws whether you have a license or not.

If you practice medicine without a license you are not obeying the law.

26 posted on 07/01/2004 6:54:52 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
If you practice medicine without a license you are not obeying the law.

Show me the medical licenses of members of Congress, such that they are legally able to decide medical matters. Or admit they practice medicine without such a license, and hence are breaking the law according to your above comment.

Thanks in advance for your answer.

27 posted on 07/01/2004 7:21:01 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan
Show me the medical licenses of members of Congress, such that they are legally able to decide medical matters

We were talking about state licensing now you are jumping the rail to the Feds.

28 posted on 07/01/2004 7:26:19 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: coloradan

>Then again, many here would call your mother a druggie, >and demand she be thrown in jail on federal charges

They could call her what they wanted, sadly, the cancer took her life not long after... But at least she had some time before that happened. And I don't live life by what small minded people think. Prohibition is prohibition and in some cases, there is no legitimate reason for it. Medical marijuana is one of those I feel.


29 posted on 07/01/2004 1:28:33 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: cinFLA
We were talking about state licensing now you are jumping the rail to the Feds.

The federal government has decided to declare that marijuana has no medical uses whatsoever, which is a medical decision. And, it's binding on the states and upon state-licensed doctors because of the federal supremacy clause.

Please show me the medical credentials of the federal Congress, which authorizes them to practice medicine in any state, let alone in every state which is what they are doing.

30 posted on 07/02/2004 7:38:41 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: cinFLA
Incidentally, do you admit that people with medical licenses have any special training in medicine and that training is recognized by the state, or, do doctors only get licenses just to comply with law, but their having them implies nothing about being able to make informed medical decisions, which instead you think (medically) unlicensed politicians should do?

It seems that for you, the law is the highest thing there is - all hail the mighty laws. If there were a law requiring people to wear pink tutus, you would support it. After all, it's the law.

31 posted on 07/19/2004 4:56:48 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan
Incidentally, do you admit that people with medical licenses have any special training in medicine and that training is recognized by the state,

Of course.

32 posted on 07/20/2004 6:52:42 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: coloradan
If there were a law requiring people to wear pink tutus, you would support it. After all, it's the law.

Why do y'all always go off the deep end with your posts when you cannot debate the facts?

33 posted on 07/20/2004 6:53:48 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA

Do members of Congress who lack medical licenses have any special training in medicine? Is that training recognized? Does Congress have the intellectual ability or moral or legal authority to make medical decisions?


34 posted on 07/20/2004 7:08:52 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: cinFLA

You are the one who refuses to debate facts: Please show what authority grants Congress the power to practice medicine.


35 posted on 07/20/2004 7:10:02 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/my/comments

False premise. Congress does not practice medicine.

36 posted on 07/20/2004 7:13:35 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: coloradan
Does that mean I don't have to obey state laws if I don't have a license? Nope! You are wrong, doctors are licensed by the state to practice medicine. You have to obey laws whether you have a license or not.

Note that "practicing medicine" implies performing medical procedures on someone else, usually for a fee. If I suture up my own wound, I am not practicing medicine. If I do it for someone else as a paid service, I am.

37 posted on 07/20/2004 7:36:03 AM PDT by tacticalogic ( Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: cinFLA

Congress is making a medical decision that would normally be the purview of doctors to make, namely, that marijuana has no medical uses whatsoever. Normally, medical scientists would be needed to determine whether something has a potential use, and a doctor would be in a position to decide whether that use is applicable to any given patient. Here, Congress usurps the role of both the scientist and the doctor, without having the credentials of either. And you apparently support this.


38 posted on 07/20/2004 10:22:48 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: tacticalogic

Congress makes medical decisions (you can't use marijuana) for other people (all citizens of the US) for a fee (federal taxes). Does that do it for you?


39 posted on 07/20/2004 10:23:58 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan
Congress is making a medical decision that would normally be the purview of doctors to make, namely, that marijuana has no medical uses whatsoever.

That is not practicing medicine, which you claimed they were doing.

Normally, medical scientists would be needed to determine whether something has a potential use,

I believe that is how it is done.

and a doctor would be in a position to decide whether that use is applicable to any given patient. Here, Congress usurps the role of both the scientist and the doctor, without having the credentials of either. And you apparently support this.

You have heard of 'quack doctors', no?

40 posted on 07/20/2004 10:35:52 AM PDT by cinFLA
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