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Rasul v Bush - Scalia Dissents
SCOTUS ^
| 6/28/04
| Justice Scalia et al
Posted on 06/28/2004 6:21:38 PM PDT by jwalsh07
JUSTICE SCALIA, with whom THE CHIEF JUSTICE and JUSTICE THOMAS join, dissenting. The Court today holds that the habeas statute, 28 U. S. C. §2241, extends to aliens detained by the United States military overseas, outside the sovereign borders of the United States and beyond the territorial jurisdictions of all its courts. This is not only a novel holding; it contra-dicts a half-century-old precedent on which the military undoubtedly relied, Johnson v. Eisentrager, 339 U. S. 763 (1950). The Courts contention that Eisentrager was somehow negated by Braden v. 30th Judicial Circuit Court of Ky., 410 U. S. 484 (1973)a decision that dealt with a different issue and did not so much as mention Eisentrageris implausible in the extreme. This is an irresponsible overturning of settled law in a matter of extreme importance to our forces currently in the field. I would leave it to Congress to change §2241, and dissent from the Courts unprecedented holding. As we have repeatedly said: Federal courts are courts of limited jurisdiction. They possess only that power authorized by Constitution and statute, which is not to be expanded by judicial decree....
Rasul v Bush. (PDF file)
(Excerpt) Read more at a257.g.akamaitech.net ...
TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dissent; enemycombatant; gitmo; rasulvbush; scalia; scotus; supremecourt; terror
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My opinion:
SCOTUS is out of control.
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:21:41 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: Torie; mrsmith; Sandy; AntiGuv; dirtboy; woodyinscc; Howlin; wardaddy; Luis Gonzalez; JohnHuang2
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:23:22 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: jwalsh07
Darn those activist judges!!!!!
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:27:43 PM PDT
by
familyofman
(and the first animal is jettisoned - legs furiously pumping - perhaps D. Cheney)
To: jwalsh07
I am not knowledgeable enough to comment on Supreme Court rulings; I come to these threads to see what the "smart people" have to say.
I'll be here reading.
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:32:44 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
Thanks for dropping by. :-}
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:36:49 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: jwalsh07
None of your links work.
Why did you 'excerpt' this decision?
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:42:36 PM PDT
by
tpaine
(The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being" -- Solzhenitsyn)
To: tpaine
Links don't work? Ah crap!
I excerpted because its long and copying and pasting PDF is tedious. I'll get you a better link.
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:44:22 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: jwalsh07
My opinion is I friggin hate pdfs ;-)
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:45:50 PM PDT
by
Huck
(Be nice to chubby rodents. You know, woodchucks, guinea pigs, beavers, marmots, porcupines...)
To: jwalsh07
I wish I had something to add to intelligent conversation on this, but I don't, although I have been accused of that on other subjects, too!
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:47:12 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: tpaine
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:47:17 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: jwalsh07
Scalia, Thomas and Rehnquist, are the only three members of the Court that are sane. The rest need to be impeached for being mental cases.
To: Huck
Ah Huck, I left you out. My short term memory is getting shorter. Go to the link I gave to Paine. Right Click on Rasul v Bush. Copy the url to the clipboard.
Go to bottom of page and Adobe will convert PDF to HTML for ya.
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:49:26 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: Howlin
Oh hell.
Do as I do: take Scalia's side and be correct all of the time.
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:49:48 PM PDT
by
onyx
To: COEXERJ145
I would agree with that. Kennedys concurrence is abysmal.
Evidently we have three Americans on the SCOTUS and 6 globalists.
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:50:45 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: jwalsh07
A Matter Of Interpretation and
The Tempting Of America
are both must reads!
If anyone wants to discover why our current system of jurisprudence is totally out of whack, they need to pick up those books.
Scalia, Bork, Graglia, et. al., have been warning us that this day would come for years. Frankly, I'm astounded that no one seems to have heeded their warnings.
It's only a matter of time before Khalid Sheik Muhammad, Abu Zubaydah and Saddam Hussein are released from custody because their detention violated a heretofore unknown part of the "due process" clause of the U.S. Constitution.
It's time to take back America!
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:51:39 PM PDT
by
The Scourge of Yazid
("Every time I try to get out, they pull me back in!")
To: jwalsh07
I am not informed enough to have an intelligent opinion. Off the cuff, I would try to draw a distinction between those rounded up on the battlefield, and those arrested in the US. Another problem, is that this could be an endless "war," and thus the detention without due process could be endless. It's a toughie. But again, I simply am not informed enough to really have an opinion, that is worth anything. I leave it to some others to just shoot from the hip, which is rather popular in some quarters when it comes to legal issues.
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:53:43 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: jwalsh07
O'Connor and Kennedy seem to be getting worse with every decision. Such opinions are expected out of Souter, Stevens, Breyer, and Ginsburg, but Kennedy and O'Connor up until recently were at least right of center on most issues. Now they've moved hard left as if they're under mind control by Michael Moron.
To: Torie
I leave it to some others to just shoot from the hip, which is rather popular in some quarters when it comes to legal issues.You mean like me? LOL
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:55:10 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: jwalsh07
Hey, anytime I see "Scalia dissents" I am there. I'd like to have a collection of Scalia dissents in book form. That'd be the title: Scalia Dissents. Not a bad idea, actually.
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posted on
06/28/2004 6:55:15 PM PDT
by
Huck
(Be nice to chubby rodents. You know, woodchucks, guinea pigs, beavers, marmots, porcupines...)
To: jwalsh07
They just can't bear the idea of lawyers and judges being left out. After all, they are indispensable.
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