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12 WEEK OLD BABY WALKS IN THE WOMB!
The BBC. Pip Pip Cheerio! ^

Posted on 06/28/2004 1:31:10 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

Scans uncover secrets of the womb

Baby 'walking' in the womb A new type of ultrasound scan has produced the vivid pictures of a 12 week-old foetus "walking" in the womb. The new images also show foetuses apparently yawning and rubbing its eyes.

The scans, pioneered by Professor Stuart Campbell at London's Create Health Clinic, are much more detailed than conventional ultrasound.

Professor Campbell has previously released images of unborn babies appearing to smile.

He has compiled a book of the images called Watch Me Grow.

Conventional ultrasound, usually offered to mothers at 12 and 20 weeks, produces 2D images of the developing foetus.

These are very useful for helping doctors to measure and assess the growth of the foetus, but convey very little information about behaviour.

Complex behaviour

More pictures of developing foetuses Professor Campbell has perfected a technique which not only produces detailed 3D images, but records foetal movement in real time.

He says his work has been able to show for the first time that the unborn baby engages in complex behaviour from an early stage of its development.

Professor Campbell told the BBC: "This is a new science for understanding and mapping out the behaviour of the baby.

"Maybe in the future it will help us understand and diagnose genetic disease, maybe even conditions like cerebral palsy which puzzles the medical profession as to why it occurs."

The images have shown:

From 12 weeks, unborn babies can stretch, kick and leap around the womb - well before the mother can feel movement

From 18 weeks, they can open their eyes although most doctors thought eyelids were fused until 26 weeks

From 26 weeks, they appear to exhibit a whole range of typical baby behaviour and moods, including scratching, smiling, crying, hiccoughing, and sucking. Until recently it was thought that smiling did not start until six weeks after birth.

An hour long session using the new technology, which is not yet available on the NHS, costs £275.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 4d; baby; catholiclist; life; prenataldevelopment; professorcampbell; stuartcampbell; walks
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To: ConservativeMan55

Pro-lifie bump!


161 posted on 06/28/2004 9:55:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Wow, in this one the kid is doing a W C Fields impression...


162 posted on 06/28/2004 9:58:00 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Really birth has to be traumatic. No wonder the kid comes out cross

Although Cesarean births are necessary some times, a baby is better off being squeezed through the birth canal. This process does something to form his body and head correctly.

Not that a C-section kid will have problems cause he/she didn't get the "big squeeze."

But the reason for my post is because of the comment that the kid comes out cross.

First of all, I imagine it is just a flippant comment, but it is amazing the difference between my two son's gestation and births.

The first one was always moving and kicking keeping busy. It was quite difficult for my wife.

When he came out he was a little drugged because of the pain relief his Mother decided to use.

But it wasn't long before he started getting mobile.

When he was just a few months old, and we didn't expect him to be able to move across the bed he did...and landed on the floor!

Needless to say he was a very curious and busy boy.

My second son during gestation was very mellow, and didn't move much. Smooth pregnancy for his mother.

He was born at home (a cabin in the Santa Cruz Mountains) with an ob/gyn and his wife a nutritionist in attendance.

I got a little anxious, as I could see the kids hair when they arrived!

I could have handled it if I had to , I had been at about 3 births before that with no doctors or midwifes in attendance.

Well to wrap it up, this second son...when he came out...he was mellow and quiet and smiling.

Quite a contrast.

Now my daughter's birth...LOL just kidding, I won't go into that one now...

163 posted on 06/28/2004 10:21:02 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: ConservativeMan55
A new type of ultrasound scan has produced the vivid pictures of a 12 week-old foetus "walking" in the womb. The new images also show foetuses apparently yawning and rubbing its eyes.

I don't expect to see this in any of the major media here. They will have to answer for this some day.

164 posted on 06/29/2004 5:06:20 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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The Hard Truth shows the darker side of this story, unborn children torn to pieces in their mothers' wombs.
165 posted on 06/29/2004 5:14:20 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: dansangel

ping..........


166 posted on 06/29/2004 5:28:58 AM PDT by .45MAN ("Vote for Life, Vote for Freedom ,Vote for Bush")
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To: ican'tbelieveit; *Catholic_list
MSNBC has video online:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032076/

Dear God, the video is so beautiful!

Even the BBC reporter had to close by saying, "this will reopen the debate regarding abortion."

Please forward the above link to as many people as possible!

(Make sure you tell people that they'll have to sit through a 15 second "Red Zone" deodorant commercial before the video begins, which seems sacrilegious, to say the least).

167 posted on 06/29/2004 5:30:04 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: phil1750
It explains how the democRATS are aborting themselves into extinction.

It's not true, because they steal our children away from us in the government reeducation centers.

168 posted on 06/29/2004 5:32:06 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
I was just showing this to my son. I have shown it to people at work, passed in on via email, IM. Incredible... just told my son that sometimes God gets tired of our garbage and smacks us over the head with a 2x4.

When I was in high-school in the 80's, someone brought in a presentation about abortion. They had pictures of little hands, etc, of supposed aborted babies. After the presentation, the teacher of the class told us that was garbage. That unborn fetuses that are aborted do not have anything that resembles a human in parts.

So, in watching this video, I am reminded of that. Especially when they talk about the men kissing the monitor or their wives abdomens. We have been led to believe that at 12 weeks, the unborn child is nothing but a blob of uninterpretable flesh. Guess what, scientists can be wrong.
169 posted on 06/29/2004 5:34:31 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Puddleglum
Someone ought to fund a documentary on the miracle of life in the womb and get it into theaters.

I'm sure Michael Moore will bankroll a film exposing this grave injustice. Can't you picture him chasing abortionists to their cars waving a portable DVD player in their faces showing this video? OK, maybe not.

Mel Gibson on the other hand... Mel, are you out there?

170 posted on 06/29/2004 5:37:34 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
After the presentation, the teacher of the class told us that was garbage. That unborn fetuses that are aborted do not have anything that resembles a human in parts.

And how many women in that class have gone on to have abortions, partly due to that teacher's actions? Tragic. Hopefully, he'll see the video and repent.

We have been led to believe that at 12 weeks, the unborn child is nothing but a blob of uninterpretable flesh. Guess what, scientists can be wrong.

I talked to a doctor who did 3D ultrasounds for a crisis pregnancy center. He said 85% of the women who see their babies choose not to abort them, compared to 15% of the women who receive simple counseling alone.

4D ultrasounds will undoubtedly boost those numbers, and word is sure to get out on the street. But CPC's need money to buy this equipment...

171 posted on 06/29/2004 5:46:36 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
I'm sure Michael Moore will bankroll a film exposing this grave injustice. Can't you picture him chasing abortionists to their cars waving a portable DVD player in their faces showing this video? OK, maybe not.

Mel Gibson on the other hand... Mel, are you out there?

Someone needs to give the abortion industry the Michael Moore treatment. They are scum from their polished talking heads to their money-grubbing butchers. I hope Mel or someone equally enterprising will do such a big-screen expose. The small screen tends to get gauzed in sanitized terms and sensivity filtering.

172 posted on 06/29/2004 6:22:06 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Kerry loathes you but will tolerate your vote, peon!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I would be just as happy if this doctor didn't get a clear view of his prey.

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/11493605?source=Evening%20Standard&preview=null


173 posted on 06/29/2004 6:43:53 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Aquinasfan

The teacher was an e-lite she. Thank God I went to a small school, so she couldn't corrupt too many kids for the years she was there. But I was ridiculed for my belief that every life was special and deserved a chance.


174 posted on 06/29/2004 7:58:44 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ConservativeMan55

To All:

This is a well-thought-out response, so please, no flames. Any flames will be ignored, because I have no desire to fight.

I have previously posted on FR (and been roundly spanked for it) that it was my belief that abortion should be outlawed beyond the point of fetal viability. Meaning, that once the baby has a 50% chance of surviving on its own outside the womb, that abortion should be illegal.

Many folks posted to me that my stance was unreasonable, because, "Why was the baby any less a baby one day before my magical time limit?" They also asked if that time limit should be moved backward as medical technology progressed to where we could save younger and younger babies (I said "yes" to that).

I thought that it was a reasonable compromise that would have the immediate effect of preventing at least some abortions.

Okay, now to the point ...

After seeing these pictures, I cannot justify my previous position. These babies are much younger than anything that current medical technology could save, yet, they're clearly babies.

If these pictures can change my mind, they can change other minds. Maybe just living in the world we live in will make abortion unacceptable, whether illegal or not.

It's unacceptable for me now, in any case. Y'all were right and I was wrong.

Flame me all you want for my past beliefs, but I won't respond.


175 posted on 06/29/2004 8:09:24 AM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: ConservativeMan55

This article is surely bogus. Everybody knows it is just a mass of cells and such until 9 months and one minute have passed. It's not alive until it is completely out of the mother. Everybody knows that dumby ! </sarcasm>


176 posted on 06/29/2004 8:12:46 AM PDT by sawmill trash (NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!!)
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To: small_l_libertarian

You know, God has ways of reaching people. I am so glad you were able to see these precious babies.


177 posted on 06/29/2004 8:27:57 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Thank you.

I guess I really shouldn't respond to positive posts, either. I wasn't trying to attract attention to myself - I just wanted to do the right thing and admit to those folks that I argued with that I was wrong.

So, no more responding at all.


178 posted on 06/29/2004 8:45:34 AM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: phil1750
It is posted o FR over here.
179 posted on 06/29/2004 9:22:59 AM PDT by ELS
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To: LadyDoc

Did you see this? Beautiful!


180 posted on 06/29/2004 12:08:57 PM PDT by ELS
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