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Civil war looms for Republicans
The Chicago Sun Times ^ | ROBERT NOVAK

Posted on 06/28/2004 9:24:17 AM PDT by SlickWillard

Before Congress left town Friday for its Fourth of July recess, Rep. Bill Thomas of California pulled off one of his patented legislative assassinations. Washington's most cunning parliamentarian, House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Thomas eradicated the Freedom of Speech in Churches Act without openly opposing it. In the process, he fired an early shot in a destructive civil war looming for Republicans.

The bill would stop the Internal Revenue Service from using existing statutes to muzzle clergymen who talk politics in their churches. That stoppage is pressed by Christian conservatives, who say they have been discriminated against by federal enforcers. While the free speech initiative is supported by Republican leaders, Thomas made short work of it. He transformed the proposal into a hybrid that neither friend nor foe could support.

Thomas has brought into the open internecine warfare posing grave dangers for the Republican Party. A 13-term congressman who is the party boss of Bakersfield, Calif., he represents old-line Republicans who resent Christian conservatives entering their party in 1980 (and giving the GOP parity with Democrats). Efforts to expel these intruders will reach fever pitch next year if George W. Bush is defeated for re-election.

This specific fight's origins date back to 1954 when Senate Democratic leader Lyndon B. Johnson, unduly concerned about the threat to his re-election from right-wing political groups, passed a bill barring political activity by tax-exempt organizations. In time, this was broadened to keep churches out of politics.

That aspiration sounds comical to me after years of following Democratic candidates into inner-city churches on Sunday mornings to hear them endorsed by black clergymen. This activity never incurs the wrath of Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Instead, Lynn pesters the IRS about conservatives in church as he did in a May 27 letter to the IRS. It claimed Bishop Michael J. Sheridan's pastoral letter of May 1 ''jeopardized the tax-exempt status'' of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Colorado Springs, Colo., by praising politicians opposed to abortion.

Such censorship alarmed Walter Jones, a Republican businessman and devout Catholic from Farmville, N.C., when he was elected to Congress in 1994. Correcting unintended consequences of LBJ's 1954 legislation became Jones' top priority. He introduced his bill in 2001.

Thomas as chairman blocked an easy path to the floor for Jones' bill. It reached the floor Oct. 1, 2002, under the procedure requiring two-thirds approval. Despite support for it from their party's leadership, 46 Republicans -- Thomas included -- voted no and prevented even a simple majority. They represent a bloc of Republicans, from the corporate boardroom to the country club, who despise the religious right.

This year, the indefatigable Jones managed to get his religious free speech proposal imbedded in tax legislation that has to be passed to stop trade retaliation by the European Union. Everybody was on board: Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, Majority Leader Tom DeLay, Majority Whip Roy Blunt, Republican National Chairman Ed Gillespie -- everybody, that is, except Thomas.

Thomas practiced his sorcery. The straightforward Jones language was transmuted into a maze of words that lawyers for conservative organizations say would keep the muzzle on preachers. Jones, with the backing of Hastert, added 28 words to the Thomas language to restore his original meaning. Thomas pulled the 28 words out of the final version. That killed the whole issue. Thomas did not seem unhappy about it, but the speaker was furious.

Thomas is a secularist who in the past jousted with senior Republican Rep. Henry Hyde of Illinois, a prominent Catholic layman, over federal aid to Catholic hospitals. A former college professor, Thomas is entitled to his own views, but today's GOP relies on support not from secular Americans but from churchgoers. Jones, not intimidated by Thomas, told me: ''Discretionary enforcement, primarily against conservative churches, of an unenforceable law is wrong and should not stand.'' That is a battle cry for the coming Republican civil war.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: billthomas; churchandstate; culturewar; freespeech; irs; northcarolina; novak; oldnorthstate; rino; robertnovak; unhelpful; walterjones
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
I fail to see how speaking out about politics turns a church into a for-profit organization.

Here's what's going down. Clinton, Gore and Kerry go to black churches the weekend before the election, get endorsed and get a lot of media. IRS does nothing. But when some conservative churches tell their flocks to vote pro-life, they get threats from liberals that their tax-exempt status will be pulled. Are you fine with that? Bill Thomas seems to be -- and Novak did a service by calling him on it.

41 posted on 06/28/2004 3:16:36 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: PhiKapMom

Novak is dumping on Bill Thomas for a good reason. Conservative churches shouldn't be punished by the IRS for urging people to vote pro-life. After all, the IRS doesn't punish liberal black churches when they host Democratic candidates at their services. The bill that Thomas neutered would have protected conservative churches from retaliation. GOOD FOR NOVAK FOR POINTING OUT HOW THOMAS IS UNDERMINING CONSERVATISM AND HELPING CLINTON AND KERRY.


42 posted on 06/28/2004 3:18:49 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: babble-on

Novak has been trying to provoke a civil war among Republicans for years. He's a registered Democrat who gets to play the conservative on CNN.


43 posted on 06/28/2004 3:21:27 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Badeye
Novak hasn't had a valid insight about Republican Party politics since about 1991. This article just confirms the above conclusion.

Are you saying you favor the IRS should punishing conservative churches that urge their parishioners to vote for conservative candidates? Apparently Bill Thomas killed a bill that would have protected conservative church against such IRS abuse. (The IRS never punished liberal black churches for hosting Democratic candidates) GOOD FOR NOVAK FOR BRINGING THIS PROBLEM TO PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.

44 posted on 06/28/2004 3:22:26 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Dog Gone
Novak has been trying to provoke a civil war among Republicans for years.

If Thomas neutered a bill that would have protected conservative churches from IRS abuse, then GOOD FOR NOVAK FOR LETTING US KNOW!!!

45 posted on 06/28/2004 3:23:09 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

I don't disagree with that, but Novak's motive in doing so should be discussed as well. He wants Republicans to lose, which would end the slightest hope of stopping IRS abuse.


46 posted on 06/28/2004 3:29:23 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
He wants Republicans to lose

I didn't know that. He doesn't stick to reporting happy-happy news, that much is true.

48 posted on 06/28/2004 3:39:09 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: ampat

Democrats use churches on a regular basis to get out the vote. It was nothing to see Hillary Clinton visit 3 churches per Sunday to gather support. Gore made himself available at many churches ( especially minority) and so did Slick Willy. The one Baltimore church he visited heard him tell the congregation that the GOP was going to try to block them at the polls and not allow them to vote. The
GOP candidate, Ellen Sauerbury (sp) was accused of racism a few days before the election. She did not have a racist bone in her body but the Democrats pulled it off and elected the Democrat gov. to another term. It was a dirty, nasty election full of inner city church race baiting. Watch for it this time around. I wish the GOP would take the
Democrats to the wall over the race baiting.


49 posted on 06/28/2004 3:41:27 PM PDT by oldironsides
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To: SlickWillard

Houses of Worship Free Speech Restoration Act (Introduced in House)

HR 235 IH


108th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 235
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to protect the religious free exercise and free speech rights of churches and other houses of worship.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 8, 2003
Mr. JONES of North Carolina (for himself, Mr. DELAY, Mr. BLUNT, Mr. HAYES, Mr. SMITH of New Jersey, Mr. SOUDER, Mr. HALL, Mr. DEMINT, Mr. GUTKNECHT, Mr. KENNEDY of Minnesota, Mr. WELDON of Florida, Mr. PENCE, Ms. HART, and Mr. PITTS) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means







A BILL
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to protect the religious free exercise and free speech rights of churches and other houses of worship.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Houses of Worship Free Speech Restoration Act' .

SEC. 2. HOUSES OF WORSHIP PERMITTED TO ENGAGE IN RELIGIOUS FREE EXERCISE AND FREE SPEECH ACTIVITIES, ETC.

Section 501 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by redesignating subsection (p) as subsection (q) and by inserting after subsection (o) the following new subsection:

`(p) An organization described in section 508(c)(1)(A) (relating to churches ) shall not fail to be treated as organized and operated exclusively for a religious purpose, or to have participated in, or intervened in any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office, for purposes of subsection (c)(3), or section 170(c)(2) (relating to charitable contributions), because of the content, preparation, or presentation of any homily, sermon, teaching, dialectic, or other presentation made during religious services or gatherings.'.

SEC. 3. CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS UNAFFECTED.

Nothing in section 2 permits any disbursements for electioneering communications, or political expenditures, prohibited in the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971.

SEC. 4. EFFECTIVE DATE.

The amendments made herein shall be effective as of the date of enactment of this Act .


Religious Freedom Restoration Act (Introduced in House)

HR 1547 IH


108th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1547

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds the following:

(1) The freedom to practice religion and to express religious thought is acknowledged to be one of the fundamental and unalienable rights belonging to all individuals.

(2) The Framers of the Constitution deliberately withheld, in the main body of that document, any authority for the Federal Government to meddle with the religious affairs or with the free speech of the people. Then, as further and more specific protection for the people, they added the first amendment, which includes the `establishment clause' and the `freedom of speech clause' which are as follows: `Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech . . .'. It is of utmost importance to note that the first amendment is not a grant of authority to the Federal Government. To the contrary, it is a specific restriction upon the exercise of power by the Federal Government.

(3) For over 150 years, the Court held to this historically correct position in interpreting the first amendment. During this period, scant mention was made to `The Separation of Church and State'.

(4) Then, beginning in 1947, and accelerating through the 60's, the Court abruptly reversed its position. This was done with no change in the law, either by statute or by amendment to the Constitution. The Court invented the distorted meaning of the first amendment utilizing the separation of `church and state' in 1947 in Everson v. Board of Education when it announced: The First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach. (Everson v. Board of Education; 330 U.S. 1, 18 [1947]). Over the past five decades, rulings of the United States Supreme Court have served to infringe upon the rights of Americans to enjoy freedom of speech relating to religious matters. Such infringements include the outlawing of prayer in schools and of the display of the Ten Commandments in public places. These rulings have not reflected a neutrality toward religious denominations but a hostility toward religious thought. They have served to undermine the foundation of not only our moral code but our system of law and justice.

(5) In making this abrupt change, the Court ignored all historical precedent established previously by the Court, the wording of the First Amendment, and the intent of its framers. The rulings are legally irrational and without foundation. Although the Court presumed to rely upon the First Amendment for its authority for these rulings, a review of that Amendment reveals that said rulings could not possibly have been based upon its original intent. Consequently, it is incumbent upon this Congress to review not only the rulings of the Court which are in question but the wording and history of the First Amendment to determine the intent of its framers. This abrupt change is found in the following court cases:

(A) `A verbal prayer offered in a school is unconstitutional, even if that prayer is both voluntary and denominationally neutral.' (Engel v. Vitale, 1962, Abington v. Schempp, 1963, Commissioner of Education v. School Committee of Leyden, 1971.)

(B) `Freedoms of speech and press are guaranteed to students and teachers unless the topic is religious, at which time such speech becomes unconstitutional.' (Stein v. Oshinsky, 1965, Collins v. Chandler Unified School District, 1981, Bishop v. Aronov, 1991, Duran v. Nitsche, 1991.)

(C) `It is unconstitutional for students to see the Ten Commandments since they might read, meditate upon, respect, or obey them.' (Stone v. Graham, 1980, Ring v. Grand Forks Public School District, 1980, Lanner v. Wimmer, 1981.)

(D) `If a student prays over his lunch, it is unconstitutional for him to pray aloud.' (Reed v. Van Hoven, 1965.)

(E) `The Ten Commandments, despite the fact that they are the basis of civil law and are depicted in engraved stone in the United States Supreme Court, may not be displayed at a public courthouse.' (Harvey v. Cobb County, 1993.)

(F) `When a student addresses an assembly of his peers, he effectively becomes a government representative; it is therefore unconstitutional for that student to engage in prayer.' (Harris v. Joint School District, 1994.)

(G) By interpreting the establishment clause to preclude prayer and other religious speech in any public place, the Supreme Court


50 posted on 06/28/2004 3:57:32 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("In America, our origins matter less than our destinations, and that is what democracy is all about")
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To: All; Eagle9; freedox; chesty_puller; GRRRRR; MouthOfTheSouth; Memother; joan_30; dixie sass; ...

H. R. 1547

http://thomas.loc.gov/

If not informed you should read the rest of this bill.


51 posted on 06/28/2004 4:02:11 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("In America, our origins matter less than our destinations, and that is what democracy is all about")
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To: hosepipe
Hmmmmmm, close but no cigar.

The net effect of your deconstruction is to compare apples with oranges.

The term Socialistic Darwinism is better used to describe individuals' actions, including elected individuals' actions.

The term is not as useful in the context of a description for a political selection process.

52 posted on 06/28/2004 5:10:24 PM PDT by Liz
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To: SlickWillard

Bill Thomas is a scumbag?
Dump the p.o.s.


53 posted on 06/28/2004 6:43:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thanks for the ping!


54 posted on 06/28/2004 8:04:55 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: churchillbuff

I agree with you.


55 posted on 06/28/2004 9:20:04 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: SlickWillard

2 points: As everybody already has stated, Novak is always looking for a "civil war" in the GOP,and why no mention of all the RAT electioneering that goes on in the black churches.


56 posted on 06/28/2004 9:31:57 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: churchillbuff

"Novak hasn't had a valid insight about Republican Party politics since about 1991. This article just confirms the above conclusion."

"Are you saying you favor the IRS should punishing conservative churches that urge their parishioners to vote for conservative candidates?"

No. I'm saying Novak hasn't had a valid insight since 1991.


57 posted on 06/29/2004 6:55:12 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: hosepipe

I was talking to a Democrat co-worker the other day about the upcoming election. His comment (and he's decided after our discussion to NOT vote for Kerry, but instead look at either Nader or Cobb), "A trained monkey could do better than Bush." I immediately responded "And Kerry's not even that good."

Survival of the fittest is not the case in DC. It's survival of the slimiest.


58 posted on 06/29/2004 10:36:24 AM PDT by spacewarp (Visit the American Patriot Party and stay a while. http://www.patriotparty.us)
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To: Constitution Day
Yes, I know it's Novak, but this is regarding Walter Jones' Freedom of Speech in Churches Act.

Yeah right, we know you just pinged 'cause the title said "Civil War"

59 posted on 07/01/2004 6:26:10 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: JohnnyZ
'Civil War'? What's that?

I prefer "War Between the States".

60 posted on 07/01/2004 6:28:05 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Member, Burger-Eating War Monkeys, Rapid Response Digital Brown Shirts, NLC™)
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