Bush a right-winger? No way [Mulshine]

Newark Star Ledger ^ | 6/27/04 | Paul Mulshine

[Incorrigible]

Many of my readers are puzzled as to why I insist the Republican Party should dump George W. Bush and find another nominee for president.

Simple. Because I'm a right- winger. He's not.

If you doubt that, imagine for a second that Al Gore had been elected president. Imagine he had retained Bill Clinton's CIA director and, based on faulty intelligence, gotten the United States involved in a costly and apparently endless war in Iraq. And imagine that Gore said he was doing it for the good of the Iraqi people, that he felt we Americans had a duty to spend tens of billions helping these poor foreigners.

[LowCountryJoe]

...I wish we could dump him this fall for a real Conservative.

Vote for your "real conservative" in November and when you get Kerry for your efforts, you can stand real proud of your choices.

[jmc813]

Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed

Not to nitpick, but didn't we end up paying China a small amount as a storage fee for that plane? It was a while ago, an I may be remembering wrong.

[nonliberal]

the man who picked the *communist* Fulani to be his VP candidate in 2000

Wrong!!! Pat picked pro-life, pro-gun, pro-family capitalist Ezola Foster as his VP candidate.

[B4Ranch]

>>President Bush signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal Aliens.<<

I think you need to run this through the grinder again. You'll come out with he has left our international borders wide open to illegal alien entry, to the tune of 1000+ illegal entries per night.

Prosecutions for hiring of illegal Aliens is a dream of mine not his.

He is buddies with el Presidente Fox, allowing Mexico to send their criminals and uneducated up here for us to educate, medicate, feed and house, take the jobs our older children used to do, etc., while successful Mexicans stay in Mexico with a cleaner, safer society.

Bush chose to continue Clinton's pandering to non-English speaking minorities.

Now with the UN. Our President jumped to the front of the line offering our tax dollars to build them a new headquarters in NYC something to the tune of $1.2 billion and just recently said is pushing to spend $600 million into the UN for a "standing army. $600 million won't train the 75,000 men let alone supply them with fighting equipment. This cost will enlarge greatly.

I realize that he is just fulfilling his fathers wishes: "My vision of a 'new world order' foresees a United Nations with a revitalized peacekeeping function."

The Clinton administration persuaded Congress to ban semi-automatic assault rifles in 1994. The ban will sunset this September. Senate Democrats have introduced a bill to continue the ban and, to the shock of the National Rifle Association, Bush announced that he supports the Democrats' bill.

Land rights advocates are scratching their heads as to why the White House has asked the Supreme Court not to hear two cases challenging seven controversial national monuments named by President Clinton in the waning days of his administration.

"Human Resource spending (socialism) by this compassionate President now consumes a whopping 66.2% of all government spending in the 2004 budget."

Yes, I could continue this debate as you can. My point is to show that he is not the man I truly wish he was. Move him 500yds to the right and he'll fit into my cabinet much better. Right now he looks like a Democrat to me.

[auggy]

The only problem with nuclear, is whom do you annihilate with it? Whom do you drop it on?

I do think nuclear is the way to go, because power is the only thing these barbaric people respect. A nuclear bomb does have power.

[stljoe71]

You're like a lot of fanatics who have their pet causes and list of important political projects. Actually no I don't have any pet issues. I am looking at the man as a whole. In fact I believe I am the only one looking at the big picture which is best illustrated by spending which is more out of control than it has been in decades.

The mans supporters are the ones saying look he cut taxes so hes conservative. Now that is basing performance on a pet issue.

[stljoe71]

So FDR banned gold from private ownership and socialized the entire U.S. retail economy with WW2 ration stamps, yet that only makes him a little to the Left of President Bush in your worldview?!

Well he left everything FDR implemented in place and added a bunch more so that seems a pretty fair assessment. Can you recall even a single speech where the man proposed to eliminate a department cabinet position or program? I can give you dozens probably hundreds of examples where he offered new ones.

[stljoe71]

Or let me make this easier on you...can you even name any President in the last 150 years who you claim is to the Right of your so-called "left-wing extremist" President Bush?!

My favorite would probably be Grover Cleveland.

[Squantos]

More like a chicken winger vs right winger .....all sauce and no meat. I don't like some of the crap GW has done either but he's the best option America (the world) has currently.......

[Southack]

Are you trying to say that there is only one President to the Right of your so-called "left wing extremist" Bush in the last 150 years, and that man is Grover Clevland?!

[stljoe71]

Where in the world did you get that idea? I was asked to name one and I did. Hows that essay coming?

[Southack]

>>President Bush signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal Aliens.<<

"I think you need to run this through the grinder again. You'll come out with he has left our international borders wide open to illegal alien entry, to the tune of 1000+ illegal entries per night." - B4Ranch

Source?!

Also, how is building our current 15 foot high steel fence along our Southern border from the Pacific into Arizona leaving "our international borders wide open to illegal alien entry"??

[Southack]

Grover Cleveland was a pretty conservative President, I'll grant you, but even old Grover did some socialistic things such as signing the Interstate Commerce Act, the first law attempting Federal regulation of the railroads. He also spent federal money to purchase additional gold, and kept the treasury on a tight money policy that directly led to a an economic Depression that killed his chances for re-election (W J Bryan and his "cross of gold" speech buried Grover in the primaries, if I remember correctly).

But being able to name only a single President to the Right of Bush hardly supports your wild-eyed claim that President Bush is somehow an "extremist left wing" chief executive.

[Southack]

"Well he left everything FDR implemented in place and added a bunch more so that seems a pretty fair assessment. Can you recall even a single speech where the man proposed to eliminate a department cabinet position or program?"

Oh please... Gold is legal to own again and FDR's ration stamps are long since gone. Moreover, President Bush has called for privatizing FDR's social security program.

[Southack]

"The mans supporters are the ones saying look he cut taxes so hes conservative. Now that is basing performance on a pet issue."

No, the man's supporters, as illustrated in post #10 on this thread, are citing DOZENS of conservative examples of what President Bush has accomplished...not just one "pet" issue like cutting taxes.

[Southack]

"Illegal crossings here at the San Diego checkpoint, which plummeted from about 900 to 170 a week after the terrorist attacks, have not climbed back to pre-Sept. 11 levels. But apprehensions are unmistakably on the rise in recent weeks, an indication, perhaps, that not even one of the tightest border clampdowns in US history seems to be able to permanently stem illegal immigration from south of the border." http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0124/p01s02-usgn.html

[nopardons]

Grover Cleveland was "more" Conservative than Ronald Reagan,Calvin Coolidge,and Rutherfor B.Hayes,for example?

[B4Ranch]

Just look up some of jackelope breeder's posts and he'll tell you what goes on nightly in Cochise County, Arizona. They catch the 1st 400 and everyone else almost has free run 'til dawn.

[B4Ranch]

Here's a quick scan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1156524/posts?page=142#142

So we get illegals in their thousands every night.
We get a minimum of 500,000 illegals through this county every year.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1154746/posts?page=91#91
The Border Patrol snags hundreds before midnight, but then transporting and processing them back into Mexico turns into a logistical nightmare. The agents are completely tied up, large chunks of the line are unguarded, and a couple of thousand more make it across and go to ground several miles north to await their ride.

[Commie Basher]

Besides building a 15 foot high steel fence on our Southern border from the Pacific into Arizona to stem illegal immigration,

Wasn't it Clinton/Reno who built that fence?