Posted on 06/27/2004 8:22:16 AM PDT by Fast5
Transport aircraft attacked
By Chris Tomlinson in Baghdad
June 28, 2004
A US Air Force C-130 transport plane was hit by small arms fire after taking off today from Baghdad International Airport, resulting in an unknown number of wounded, US officials said.
The aircraft took off at about 5:30pm (local time) and was hit about 22km west of the airport, the officials said on condition of anonymity. The aircraft returned to Baghdad airport and landed safely. Ambulances transported the wounded to hospital.
Pilots have in the past reported ground fire near the airport.
On January 8, a C-5 transport plane with 63 passengers and crew limped safely back Baghdad's airport after being hit by fire from insurgents.
In December, guerrillas hit a US Air Force C-17 transport plane with a surface-to-air missile shortly after it took off from Baghdad, causing the engine to explode. The plane returned to the airport and landed safely, with only one of the 16 people aboard slightly injured.
On November 23 a plane operated by the global package delivery service DHL was hit by a missile near Baghdad and was forced to make an emergency landing. There were no casualties.
I suspect you misunderstood eastforker's post. The M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun is more than capable of bringing down aircraft, and has done so many times in its long career. It is also capable of putting more than a "single 50 cal bullet" into a target.
Whether or not it's considered "small arms" for the purposes of this article, or whether the C-130 in this was actually at 10,000 feet when it was hit are not reported here.
Finally, it's little consolation for the family of the military member killed aboard that C-130, but the number of firings on coalition aircraft have actually decreased in recent months. When you look at the number of MANPAD SAM and AAA attacks, compared to the number of takeoffs/landings in Iraq, the threat is minimal. My regret is that we don't keep AH-64s or AC-130s on airborne alert, and task them to hose the area where SAMs/small arms fire originates. After a couple of visits from an AC-130, you'd have local Iraqis killling the gunners before they could get off a shot at coalition aircraft. Believe me, you don't want an Apache or AC-130 visiting your neighborhood....
It is evident you have never "walked" Tracer fire into a target. If you are ignorant on a subject it is best to keep quiet.
thanks for the info. :))
Seems you don't want to be flying out of Baghdad Airport these days...
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It is evident you have never "walked" Tracer fire into a target. If you are ignorant on a subject it is best to keep quiet.
AT 10,000 feet you never get there with enought engergy to bend a rivet let alone bring it down.
Second a single bullet per my post at 10,000 feet is the siver bullet concept. Energy of the bullet at that hight is insignificant.
For a .50 cal????
I suspect you misunderstood eastforker's post. The M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun is more than capable of bringing down aircraft, and has done so many times in its long career. It is also capable of putting more than a "single 50 cal bullet" into a target.
Whether or not it's considered "small arms" for the purposes of this article, or whether the C-130 in this was actually at 10,000 feet when it was hit are not reported here.
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Yep you are right it was not at 10000 feet it was at 6000 meters or as I calculate to be 19,500 feet per post 27. According to post 27 it was 9,500 feet 3.69 miles in elevation.
Well, this boils down the the single bullet theory, or pilots use to say, silver bullet or bb bullet.
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Sorry to hear one fatality. But I stand behind my theory.
22 killometers is 13.67017 miles
I think they are talking distance from the airport as i dont think small arms can go 13 miles but i may be wrong !
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Yep you are right with the calculations.
50 cal machinegun is more than capable of bringing down aircraft, and has
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Yes true at close range. Close range is 500 to 1000 yards. This aircraft was at least 10,000 if 22 kilimeters from the airport when the bullet struck. Being this bullet was probably from a terrorist group it was NOT a 50 cal bullet.
It is evident you have never "walked" Tracer fire into a target. If you are ignorant on a subject it is best to keep quiet.
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You just over ran your intelligence.
Just purchased another 800 rounds of tracers.
How many rounds have you fired in the past two years??
I hate the word insurgents. Lets call them what they are...the phvkeen enemy!
Depends on where and what it hits. Capt Kim Campbell brought this Warthog home even with the damage shown in the photo.
How many rounds have you fired in the past two years??
I know its not a question for me but
lol
Thousands Tee hee hee
How many rounds have you fired in the past two years??
I know its not a question for me but
lol
Thousands Tee hee hee
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I waiting for the duds response. What do you think he will say??
Just so you know taht aircraft picture you are posting was flown by a woman pilot and returned to the base with no hydraulics.
By the way those holes are NOT 50 cal. This is air burst fragments holes.
If he owns a gun 3 Maybe!
And he missed the target twice !
My initial reaction was to flame away at SheLion, but I had hoped I had misunderstood the comment, and I wanted to give her a chance to explain. Well she has been on FR posting since then, and she has not offered any clarification, so I guess she stands by her comment, even after it is clear that the fatality on the Australian plane was an American. (Apparently, to her, it is the ownership of the plane which is important).
I find her comment disgusting, and I appreciate the Australian and other Allies who have stood by America.
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