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Mary Jo Kopechne
E-Mail | Roger E. Mundinger

Posted on 06/26/2004 3:39:01 PM PDT by cpforlife.org

Subject: Mary Jo Kopechne

Hello My name is Mary Jo Kopechne.

I would have been 65 years of age this year.

Read about me and my killer below.

When Sen. Ted Kennedy was merely just another Democrat bloating on Capitol Hill on behalf of liberal causes, it was perhaps excusable to ignore his deplorable past.

But now that he's become Sen. John Kerry's leading campaign attack dog, positioning himself as Washington's leading arbiter of truth and integrity, the days for such indulgence are now over.

It's time for the GOP to stand up and remind America why Sen. Kerry's chief spokesman had to abandon his own presidential bid in 1980 - time to say the words Mary Jo Kopechne out loud.

As is often the case, Republicans have deluded themselves into thinking that most Americans already know the story of how this "Conscience of the Democratic Party" left Miss Kopechne behind to die in the waters underneath the Edgartown Bridge in July 1969, after a night of drinking and partying with the young blonde campaign worker. But most Americans under 40 have never heard that story, or details of how Kennedy swam to safety, then tried to get his cousin Joe Garghan to say he was behind the wheel.

Those young voters don't know how Miss Kopechne, trapped inside Kennedy's Oldsmobile, gasped for air until she finally died, while the Democrats' leading Iraq war critic rushed back to his compound to formulate the best alibi he could think of.

Neither does Generation X know how Kennedy was thrown out of Harvard on his ear 15 years earlier -- for paying a fellow student to take his Spanish final. Or why the US Army denied him a commission because he cheated on tests.

As they listen to the Democrats' "Liberal Lion" accuse President Bush of "telling lie after lie after lie" to get America to go to war in Iraq, young voters don't know about that notorious 1991 Easter weekend in Palm Beach, when Uncle Teddy rounded up his nephews for a night on the town, an evening that ended with one of them credibly accused of rape.

It's time for Republicans to state unabashedly that they will no longer "go along with the gag" when it comes to Uncle Ted's rants about deception and moral turpitude inside the Bush White House. And if the Republicans don't, let's do it ourselves by passing this forgotten disgrace around the Internet to wake up memories of what a fraud and fake Teddy really is.

The Democratic Party, not to mention Sen. John Kerry, should be ashamed to have the national disgrace from Massachusetts as their spokesman. And the GOP needs to say so out loud. I remember all of this and I'm sure most of you do, too.

Roger E. Mundinger Houston, TX. w5rem@juno.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: apostate; coward; disgrace; drunk; drunken; kennedy; kopechne; lovesbooze; maryjokopechne; massachusetts; murderer; proabort; tedkennedy; therealliar; traitor; whoislyingnow
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To: ladylib
Of course. I should have known that. LOL.

Thanks for correcting that.

82 posted on 06/26/2004 8:22:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: cpforlife.org

Bump!!


83 posted on 06/26/2004 8:25:56 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ("Those poor, misguided Democrats." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: googler
911 was not implemented nation-wide until 1970...

Well I think they had the telephone back then and ol'Ted sure didn't use it to get her any help!

85 posted on 06/26/2004 8:32:57 PM PDT by tapatio ( Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.)
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To: yooper
Perhaps. If she wasn't pregnant.

Odd that a nice little Catholic girl should die under these circumstances, not be autopsied, and the remains cremated.

IMHO, Teddy would have been just as panicked if he murdered her.

86 posted on 06/26/2004 8:34:41 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Would you mind waiting until after I light this to start hacking and coughing?)
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To: yooper
I agree that he did not deliberately murder Mary Jo Kopechne. He has yet to show any remorse or accountability for his negligence. Worse for our country, that he still has a voice that is given credibility in our national debate.

Massachusetts must be one backasswards place. It's no coincidence that my EX-wife is from there.

His responsibility for the death of an innocent person, still to this day unpunished, speaks volumes about what a whorehouse this place has become:


87 posted on 06/26/2004 8:50:39 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: ladylib

Good God!!!!!


88 posted on 06/26/2004 8:56:13 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: soozla

You shouldn't sell we Generation Reagan types short. We know about those folks.


89 posted on 06/26/2004 8:57:33 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
A&E's Investigative Reports did a story on this, a two hour episode, in fact. Their reconstruction established that Kopechne would have to have been driving the car to receive the injuries to her side that resulted. I can't remember every detail, but the only scenario that fit the facts, once they established she was driving the car, was that Kennedy got out of the car to avoid being caught drunk at the wheel with a young blonde in the car. Some police had rousted them from a "lover's lane"-type spot earlier. Kennedy gets out of the car, tells her to drive car to place X where he will meet her, and she drives off the bridge in the dark--the car was large, huge compared to her own VW, and she was probably under the influence. Hours and hours later, Teddy gets a phone call about them pulling a car out of Chappaquidick, and he has to make up a story...

I'm not sure that's what happened, but if true it explains a lot, like why she didn't just swim out after him when he escaped: she couldn't, because no one escaped from that car, and Kennedy didn't know she was there...

90 posted on 06/26/2004 9:06:04 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: Alberta's Child

A gentleman that I know use to live down the street from RFK when they resided in McLean, VA years ago. He indicated when they were neighbors that RFK's children were very mean and disrespectful. Also, the Kennedy family wasn't as wealthy as people thought since they spent lavishly. Basically, they were given credit based on the Kennedy name.


91 posted on 06/26/2004 9:08:23 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: cpforlife.org

Someone who knows how really needs to do a documentry on Mary Jo in the Moore style.


93 posted on 06/26/2004 9:12:51 PM PDT by fella
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To: googler
1. There were no facts in that article. It was a media dog-log inserted into a major paper to make Mrs. Bush look bad in an election year.

2. It would be interesting for you to provide a reason that the Midland police would shield some dime-a-dozen high school kid from prosecution if there was any real culpability.

3. Comparing this incident to Chappaquidick is like comparing Ellen Degeneres to Jeffrey Dahmer because they're both gay.

4. I'm 99% certain you are a lib troll. If you aren't a troll and you get booted off this site anyway, you might consider that a vicious attack on the first lady was not a good move to make in the first 24 hours of your stay at FR.

94 posted on 06/26/2004 9:36:01 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: sgtbono2002; SupplySider; tapatio

Smells like burnt troll in here...


95 posted on 06/26/2004 9:38:58 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: Think free or die
Me three too on both counts, though I was a bit younger. My catholic parents were absolutely aghast and extrememly upset. I well remember their discussions about this subject. They despised Teddy thereafter.

Kennedy is a horrible human being and the ultimate pig of a man. His murder of Mary Jo was no doubt a convenient twofer. I cannot fathom how Mary Jo's family stomached him all these years.

Thank you for remembering her.

96 posted on 06/26/2004 9:41:07 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH ( A vote for George Bush is a principled vote!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Their reconstruction established that Kopechne would have to have been driving the car to receive the injuries to her side that resulted...yes, I think this is the latest, most likely theory of what happened that night - apparently Kennedy and Kopeckne were on the way down the dirt road to the beach for a makeout session when they were spotted turning off of the main road by a local policeman...Kennedy was possbily afraid they were going to be followed, so he left the car and hid in some bushes to let Kopeckne drive on down the road, which wasn't familiar to her...she didn't realize there was a bridge on the road and was going too fast to navigate it when she started over....

There were so many pieces that didn't fit in Kennedy's story that an honest prosecutor probably could have nailed him for obstruction of justice, if nothing else - for instance, he actually claimed that he swam back from the island to the mainland in the middle of the night, across a channel with fierce currents, in a backbrace...and then there were the questions of whether Kopechne was pregnant at the time, since her body was removed from the island for autopsy elsewhere even though the law required the autopsy be done locally if someone died there.....

He's pure scum.....

97 posted on 06/26/2004 10:15:21 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: yooper

Sorry to disagree, but he allowed her to die as a convenience. He deliberately allowed her to die which in my mind is murder. Lets walk through this step by step... The car goes over the bridge and flips upside down. He escapes. How? By either climbing out the window or opening the door. When he climbed out the water was up halfway up to the car. He most certainly looked at Mary Jo. How could he not? My theory is Mary Jo was knocked unconcious and Ted thought she was already dead but he never checked. So he swam to shore and watched as the car sank lower and lower as he wondered what to do. He saw Mary Jo suddenly awake and gasp for breath and then realized that he should just allow her to die and that maybe the car would be lost and no one would ever find it because his "career" would be harmed if it was found out. All the evidence points to that. When he sobered up the next day he realized that the odds were the car would be found, and thats when he went to the cops and made up his BS story. If he "tried to save her over and over" as he claims, then why couldn`t he? All he had to do is open the door or use the same exit he used. He saw that woman die and he allowed it to happen. In my mind that is murder.


98 posted on 06/26/2004 10:28:00 PM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (958 days since 911. I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: cpforlife.org

I have never encountered too many 'famous' people in my lifetime. However, one time I was having coffee between flights at National Airport in Washington. Ted Kennedy walked by within two feet of me. I'm sure there was an audible gasp on my part at how 'awful' he looked. Pocks and pimples all over his face and neck. No one else seemed to notice. This had to be 15 years ago. Whatever happened that night with Mary Jo surely has taken its toll...

Now that he bashes our President as he does, I no longer feel sorry for his personal condition, whatever that may have been when I observed it...


99 posted on 06/26/2004 11:01:48 PM PDT by ZOTnot (I'll take the side of Israel. Woe to its enemies.)
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To: ladylib
When she was autopsied

There was no autopsy, Einstein.

100 posted on 06/26/2004 11:24:09 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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