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To: POA2; oceanview

You're missing out on another chance to bemoan the President's low poll numbers. C'mon over!


51 posted on 06/24/2004 1:41:10 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (If Christians will go to the polls, Kerry cannot win.)
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To: TonyInOhio
Tony - buzz off - I've already posted a positive message on this thread before you were ever here -

I am as ardent a GWB supporter as there is - that does not mean I fall lock step and barrel in with his reelection team and how they have run this campaign -

The fact remains, we are getting killed by DEM 527's and his reelection team blew it for him (FOR GWB) by not seeing this coming - this is what he pays them millions for!

Lastly - no intellectually honest person can deny - as an incumbent - most incumbents that have won are sitting much better off the GWB is now - Period.

Just because you don't like those facts - doesn't mean you should run those down who bring them out -

And for the record I don't think anyone on here (besides COOP) has been a bigger supporter of GWB and the WOT and in Iraq then I have been (with my posts).

66 posted on 06/24/2004 1:57:41 PM PDT by POA2
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To: TonyInOhio

The Battle of the Polls …

Nationwide:

Fox Bush +7 versus WP/ABC Kerry +4
Harris Bush +10 versus LA Times Kerry +6

also

IBD/TIPP Bush +3
Pew Research Bush +4
Ipsos/AP Bush +1
Rasmussen Bush +2
NPR Bush +1

Battleground States:

OH Fox Bush +4 versus LA Times Kerry +3 versus ARG Kerry +6
FL Fox Bush +10 versus SUSA Bush +7 versus ARG Kerry +1
PA Fox Bush +5 versus SUSA Kerry +1 versus Quinnipiac Kerry +1

First, with so many polls being taken, it would not be surprising for some of the poll results to be bogus. We say, "19 time out of 20," yet that is under laboratory conditions (beads out of an urn). In the real world, we would expect less than 19 out of 20 polls to be valid.

In the absense of other information, just average the results of multiple polls. PLUS: don't get too concerned about any one poll result, even though the media likes to hype any poll that "stands out" from the others.

Second, Ohio is the new Florida. With the shift of Jews to the Republican column (no Lieberman on the ticket, plus the war on terror), Florida will be safely in the Republican column if the natiowide vote is close. BUT ... unless the nationwide vote swings one way or the other, Ohio looks like a toss-up.

WHY? The media will tell you it's tough economic conditions in the rust-belt. I'll tell you differently. It's because a Republican state government raised taxes in Ohio, and now it's payback time.

Conversely, in Pennsylvania and Michigan, Democratic governors who raised taxes (albeit with the complicity of moderate Republicans in the legislature) put those states into play.

Third, with the improving economy, Bush's numbers are bound to improve. Consumer confidence is a lagging indicator. BUT ... the economy turned around soon enough to effect this year's election.

Fourth, all the statistics mean nothing if we don't get out the vote.


82 posted on 06/24/2004 2:59:11 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: TonyInOhio

as I said on the other thread, we can praise poll X and trash talk poll Y till we are blue in the face.

ask the basic question - is the WH political operation serving this president well? do we see a consistent, steady message from this administration? do we see touting of the economic record? do we see them fighting back against the outrageous lies about Abu Ghraib? do we see any move to replace Scott McClellan? do we see a cohesive media strategy? does anyone think saving AIDS victims in Vietnam is a good way to spend a day on the stump?


97 posted on 06/24/2004 7:04:56 PM PDT by oceanview
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