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To: Jill St Claire

Shooting in Detroit leaves nine wounded at Freedom Festival fireworks

(Detroit-AP, June 24, 2004, 7:21 a.m.) A gunman opened fire into a crowd that had gathered downtown to watch the International Freedom Festival fireworks display, wounding nine people and forcing hundreds to scatter.

Chief Ella Bully-Cummings said Thursday morning that one of the victims, a 22-year-old man, remained in critical condition at a local hospital with a bullet wound to the heart following the Wednesday night shooting.(snip)

http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1965788&nav=0RceOAKC

41 posted on 06/24/2004 5:15:06 AM PDT by Velveeta

A gunman opened fire into a crowd that had gathered downtown to watch the International Freedom Festival fireworks display, wounding nine people and forcing hundreds to scatter.

Looks like a quagmire to me.

46 posted on 06/24/2004 5:21:24 AM PDT by Labyrinthos

To: Velveeta; All

One of our own here just posted they were worried about this upcoming festival!

52 posted on 06/24/2004 5:29:24 AM PDT by JustPiper (Look at monitor, is it on the Threat Matrix ?)

To: Donna Lee Nardo; All

Tell it like it should be told my sister!!!

Not enough of the Muslim groups have denounced terrorism though, Vel. I have listened and I am still waiting... It is a disgrace. Even the Taliban decried the 911 hit and Hamas put out a press release against another recent terrorist hit. We know how genuine they are. There are many Islamic lobbying groups within the U.S. -- just for starters, forget about the groups all over the world. Where are these U.S. groups? They are out there protesting the detainment of suspicious jihadi types and the profiling of Muslims (which we do not do enough of, BTW), that's where. They are out there demanding that Muslim women be allowed to skirt our laws by wearing burkas in drivers' license pics. They are not saying we denounce terrorism and want to work with America to stop it.

Sorry, but the U.S. -- as a whole -- hears all the time criticism from the Red Cross, the Vatican, the U.N. and so many others for every move we make. All the while, these same groups let the killing of terrorists groups and the silence of Muslim advocacy groups slide. And, sadly, it goes beyond the U.S. as being above all else and that we should be held to a higher standard at this point. B.S. I don't buy that anymore.

I am sick of it. It is time for good people around the world -- in the world bodies especially -- to start holding the Muslim advocacy groups and the terrorists to higher standards! In fact, aren't the terrorists the ones in need of higher standards?! If the Muslim advocacy groups and the international bodies would start uniting against terrorists instead of slamming America, then maybe we could lick this terrorism problem quicker.

3,827 posted on 06/23/2004 1:47:14 PM CDT by Donna Lee Nardo

60 posted on 06/24/2004 5:46:07 AM PDT by JustPiper (Look at monitor, is it on the Threat Matrix ?)

You referred to the Muslim Student Association (MSA)in the last thread. Have you not read about them in Emerson's book American Jihad?

61 posted on 06/24/2004 5:48:49 AM PDT by JustPiper (Look at monitor, is it on the Threat Matrix ?)

To: Velveeta; All

Fairplay:

Muslim leaders denounce beheading
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-cislam22jun22,0,1515676.story?coll=sfla-news-broward

3,852 posted on 06/23/2004 2:27:54 PM CDT by Velveeta

63 posted on 06/24/2004 5:53:21 AM PDT by JustPiper (Look at monitor, is it on the Threat Matrix ?)

And so it has begun:

MSNBC Breaking News

2 dead, 7 wounded in explosion in Istanbul, Turkey - Turkish TV says the blast occurred on a bus near a hospital. Earlier, an explosion outside a hotel in Ankara injured three people. It's the same hotel where President Bush is expected to stay during a visit to Turkey this weekend.

-- Iraqi sources tell CNN 78 people have died, 233 have been wounded in attacks throughout the country.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) The Iraqi Health Ministry says 69 people, including three Americans, have been killed in attacks Thursday.

Insurgents Launch Attacks Across Iraq

Coordinated attacks across Iraq killed at least 21 people. Three U.S. soldiers were killed in heavy fighting in Baquba and three explosions rocked the northern city of Mosul.

Dozens Killed As Insurgents Launch Attacks Across Iraq

Dozens of Iraqis were killed Thursday in a series of coordinated attacks across Sunni Muslim-dominated areas of Iraq. Early reports indicated three U.S. soldiers were killed in heavy fighting in Baquba, while explosions rocked the northern city of Mosul.

66 posted on 06/24/2004 6:00:35 AM PDT by JustPiper (Look at monitor, is it on the Threat Matrix ?)

To: Oorang; Velveeta; All

This is most excellent O!
I will be mailing this info to the right source!
Also I think I just may go to the one in Rosemont it is near me...hmmm V? You want to go?

Finally found this which lists the second Annual South-Central Conference of American Muslims: Loving Our Country, Living Our Faith July 2-4, 2004 • Dallas, Texas
and

41st Annual ISNA Convention ISLAM: Dialogue, Devotion and Development Rosemont, Illinois • September 3-6, 2004
http://www.isna.net/

3,905 posted on 06/23/2004 4:23:52 PM CDT by Oorang

70 posted on 06/24/2004 6:10:42 AM PDT by JustPiper (Look at monitor, is it on the Threat Matrix ?)

To: MamaDearest; Domestic Church; All

71 posted on 06/24/2004 6:20:12 AM PDT by JustPiper (Look at monitor, is it on the Threat Matrix ?)

To: WestCoastGal; All

VERY Important repost and NEVER FORGET what they want!

These 19 all appeared to be part of our society, went about living here unsuspected.........

) Khalid Al-Midhar - Possible residence (s) : San Diego, California and New York, New York; Visa Status: B-1 Visa, but B-2 Visa had expired.

2) Majed Moqed - No information available.

3) Nawaq Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey and Wayne, New Jersey and San Diego, California.

4) Salem Alhamzi - Possible residence (s) : Fort Lee, New Jersey, and Wayne, New Jersey.

5) Hani Hanjour - Possible residence (s) : Phoenix, Arizona and San Diego, California. Believed to be a pilot.

American Airlines #11
Boeing 767
7:45 am departed Boston for Los Angeles
8:45 am crashed into North Tower of the World Trade Center

1) Satam Al Suqami - Date of birth used: June 28, 1976; Last known address: United Arab Emirates.

2) Waleed M. Alshehri - Dates of birth used: September 13, 1974/January 1, 1976/ March 3, 1976/ July 8, 1977/ December 20, 1978/ May 11, 1979/ November 5, 1979; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Orlando, Florida/ Daytona Beach, Florida; Believed to be a pilot.

3) Wail Alshehri - Date of birth used: July 31, 1973; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida, and Newton, Massachusetts; Believed to be a pilot.

4) Mohamed Atta - Date of birth used: September 1, 1968; Possible residence (s) : Hollywood, Florida/ Coral Springs, Florida/ Hamburg, Germany; Believed to be a pilot.

5) Abdulaziz Alomari - Date of birth used: December 24, 1972 and May 28, 1979; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Believed to be a pilot.

United Airlines #175
Boeing 767
7:58 am departed Boston for Los Angeles
9:05 am crashed into South Tower of the World Trade Center

1) Marwan Al-Shehhi - Date of birth used: May 9, 1978; Possible residence: Hollywood, Florida; Visa Status: B-2 Visa; Believed to be a pilot.

2) Fayez Ahmed - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

3) Ahmed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

4) Hamza Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

5) Mohald Alshehri - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

United Airlines #93
Boeing 757
8:01 am departed Newark, New Jersey, for San Francisco
10:10 am crashed in Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania

1) Saeed Alghamdi - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

2) Ahmed Alhaznawi - Date of birth used: October 11, 1980; Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

3) Ahmed Alnami - Possible residence: Delray Beach, Florida.

4) Ziad Jarrahi - Believed to be a pilot.

3,970 posted on 06/23/2004 8:38:48 PM CDT by WestCoastGal

74 posted on 06/24/2004 6:38:47 AM PDT by JustPiper (Look at monitor, is it on the Threat Matrix ?)

To: StillProud2BeFree; All

I am sure if we go through this list, we can prove at least minimally 80% of these to be radical

ISNA Conference 2002
http://www.isna.net/vision/convention/2002/default.asp

Convention - President Clinton's Message
File not found!

Convention 2000 Webcast

Washington DC, capital of our country; was the our host for the 39th Annual ISNA Convention. Below you can view the main sessions of the convention, plus our popular Entertainment Session.

2000 Community Development Conference Webcast

Welcome to the first annual Community Development Conference webcast. This conferences was held in the city of Chicago, Illinois. Below are some of the sessions that took place during the conferences. We will be adding more sessions each week as well as adding the new conferences.

http://www.isna.net/vision/conferences/2000/cdc.asp

The first annual Economics on Zakah Forum was held in ISNA headquarter. The forum focused on the fiqh issues regarding zakah in the West, zakah issues facing Muslims in the West and other topics and discussions regarding zakah in economic terminology.

http://www.isna.net/vision/conferences/2000/zakah.asp

75 posted on 06/24/2004 6:47:51 AM PDT by JustPiper (Look at monitor, is it on the Threat Matrix ?)

"We had a phenomenal fireworks display," Bully-Cummings said. "Unfortunately, we also had an incident where eight people were shot."

Now there's someone who knows how to put it all in perspective! Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the show?

166 posted on 06/24/2004 9:46:21 AM PDT by Mrs. Xtrmst (All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. --Edmund Burke)

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