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More bad news for Social Security
The Washington Times ^ | June 24, 2004 | Michael Tanner

Posted on 06/23/2004 11:02:39 PM PDT by neverdem

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:16:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Denial, as the saying goes, is not just a river in Egypt. Last week, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report suggesting there will be a slightly lower actuarial deficit and a later insolvency date than previously estimated by the Social Security Administration itself. Opponents of Social Security reform immediately seized on the reported improvement in Social Security finances to argue against fixing the program.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: socialsecurity; solvency

1 posted on 06/23/2004 11:02:40 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Someone, PLEASE, tell me, what is wrong with raising the retirement age one month each year?

'Survivors' already got cut back. What is sacred about the age of 65?

2 posted on 06/24/2004 12:03:03 AM PDT by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: eccentric

I guess nothing, because that 65 is now 66 anyway.


3 posted on 06/24/2004 12:05:11 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: eccentric
Someone, PLEASE, tell me, what is wrong with raising the retirement age one month each year?

Somebody correct if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that happened already.

4 posted on 06/24/2004 12:11:04 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: eccentric
According to one economist I heard, the "Greatest Generation" is the nation's most heavily subsidized and affluent.

The retirement age will be raised allright. But I resent the fact that I can't get out from under this scam.

5 posted on 06/24/2004 6:24:42 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: eccentric; neverdem
what is wrong with raising the retirement age

We're talking about Social Security.  When it was set up, it was sold not as a tax supported charity, but as a government run business like the Panama Canal or TVA.   It's time for all of us to accept the fact that money was accepted under the terms of a business contract, but that the business is no longer a good idea and has to be shut down.  

You can't take money and then change the terms of the contract if you're running a business-- that only works when you're taxing and spending.  There are limits with what you can do with tax'n'spending also.  If we follow the precedent of 1790 (paying off the war bonds), we'll want to honor commitments made when Social Security money was taken in.  Or not-- we could simply reduce benefits to a token level or just eliminate paybacks altogether.  Throwing principle and reputation to the wind, we could also declare treasury bonds void and not have to pay back $7,217,554,314,339.98.  Russia did it in 1920 and regretted it- it's not nice to have a bad credit rating.

A prediction (you heard it first here).  Social Security liabilities will be paid off enough to shore up America's bond rating, and the program will be gutted.  Good riddance.

 

6 posted on 06/24/2004 6:32:50 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Here's a different prediction (and you heard it here first): Social Security will not be gutted, but will die a very slow death in a way that most recipients won't even realize. The U.S. government will (and already has begun) deliberately understating the consumer price index (CPI), so automatic cost-of-living increases in Social Security benefits will not keep up with the rate of inflation.

By the time we get to 2040 or so, a typical monthly Social Security check won't even be enough to buy a bag of groceries.

7 posted on 06/24/2004 9:24:50 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Alberta's Child
Your scenario is interesting and plausible.  The idea is that the Federal Government is clever and methodical and will fool the American people.  Back in 1999 when I left the Federal Gov't work force, I didn't remember my colleagues being either clever or methodical, but things may have changed.

My prediction that the feds would fail to keep Social Security running was just what I remembered with most other federal schemes. The idea would usually be to keep the thing running on paper (like say, the Federal Helium Blimp Commission), and blame all reduction of activities on others.

OTOH, that is a lot like what you said too.

8 posted on 06/24/2004 10:08:04 AM PDT by expat_panama
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