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1 posted on 06/23/2004 9:18:16 PM PDT by illuminadi
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To: illuminadi

I have wrote variations of this theme in other threads. However, this may illuminate some profound parallels to those who seem to be so manipulated and have so much hate of the west.

The handbook for manipulation of the masses was written by the Nazi facist political party that controlled Germany between 1933 and 1945 by Adolph Hitler. Michael Aflag, the founder of the Baath Party, adopted that political ideology. In the 1930s and 40s, Baathism’s founder, Syrian-born and French-educated Michel Aflaq, and a handful of his cronies, were “students” and admirers of Marx, Lenin, and Hitler. Aflaq’s alma mater, the University of Paris, produced numerous notable political leaders, such as Cambodia’s Pol Pot. On his return to Syria in 1932 Aflag worked closely with the local communists and wrote for their magazine. In the 1950s, in Iraq, young Saddam was an early Baathist, and in the 1960s became a personal associate of Aflaq. Saddam and the Baath “party” attained dictatorship in a 1968 coup, and, at Saddam’s invitation, Aflaq spent the remaining years of his life in Iraq, where, with irrepressible college spirit, he was on Saddam’s cheerleading squad.

Saddamized Baathism is a fiercely and overtly racist (Arab supremacist), violent, and imperialist political ideology that is the Arab version of National Socialism (NAZI-ism), and was actually derived in part from NAZI-ism. Baathism prescribes “perpetual revolution” toward a goal of Baathist-Arab world domination, and Saddam views America as the main impediment to that goal. If you go back and read three decades of Saddam's speeches, what you find is someone who inherited a Nazi ideology through Michel Aflaq, the founder of the Ba'ath Party who believes in genocide as a racial tool, who believes that it is his mission to have an apocalyptic confrontation with the U.S., and who believes, as he says over and over again, that he wants to be remembered 500 years from now as someone who brought the U.S. low, someone who created an Arab regime or an Arab civilization which dominated the U.S. civilization.

Why is this bias against the United States, Israel, and Britain? Because the root of this Move On garbage is Communist at its core. The communist core has as its baseline objective to dismantle capitalism. The United States, Israel, and Britain are the champions of capitalism. The communist will use the islamo-fascists as a weapon against the West and capitalism. They will employ the device of religion to fan the fanatics. There are useful idiots that hate God so bad that once manipulated and inflamed, will do anything to destroy Judeo-Christianity, which is the foundation of that societal order necessary for human interaction in a capitalistic society. Once that foundation is destabilized, the government of that society crumbles and so goes capitalism.

There are others that can easily be manipulated to hate Judeo-Christianity because they are Moslem. These people have had centuries of indoctrination against Judeo-Christianity. The hatred is already a done deal. All that's left, is to manipulate manipulate manipulate. And they perform with absolute savegery.

What we don't need are idiots who are not bright enough to see the big picture here and fail to see how they are being used as programmed automatons to turn Americans against American when we do have a fight for our existence to worry about.


24 posted on 06/23/2004 9:43:10 PM PDT by jonrick46 (jonrick46)
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To: trussell; jmstein7; Constitution Day; Poohbah; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; TheBigB; dighton; ...

Dangit, ah done missed anuther one!!

26 posted on 06/23/2004 9:43:42 PM PDT by Old Sarge (2004: Win One More For The Gipper!)
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27 posted on 06/23/2004 9:48:12 PM PDT by John Lenin
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Is this the best you can do? Bush = Hitler? Your pathetic, unimaginative post is even not worth a ZOT.


29 posted on 06/23/2004 9:59:21 PM PDT by demnomo
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To: illuminadi

I liked your article. Thanks for posting it. Welcome to FR.


30 posted on 06/23/2004 10:13:09 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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To: illuminadi

" a war in which torture and murder have become routine?"

Go peddle your lies where the sheeple will believe them.

Torture by US soldiers is an aberration which is admitted to, apologized for and punished.

Torture by Saddam was POLICY!

Murder by the terrorists is ROUTINE!


32 posted on 06/23/2004 10:49:29 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee
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To: illuminadi
LOL! Another one bites the dust! ZOT!
(I love the smell of ZOT in the morning.)
(Well, it's early morning where I live anyway.)
34 posted on 06/23/2004 10:56:12 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: illuminadi
What is this dark side?

9/11 and our post 9/11 achievements aside, this question place upon ANYTHING but Jihad and it's followers is laughable.

35 posted on 06/23/2004 10:59:09 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: illuminadi
"Goodwin's" Law

As the length of an internet disagreement grows, the probability becomes one that a participant will draw a parallel to Hitler or the Nazis. 

The party who first makes these comparisons is immediately the loser.

38 posted on 06/23/2004 11:13:37 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: illuminadi

Dull, intellectually dishonest and misguided to the point of ineptness.


39 posted on 06/23/2004 11:24:46 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: illuminadi

In addition to the stupid Bay of Pigs disaster, Kennedy sent first troops to Vietnam, (after Eisenhour refused to send troops), thus making Vietnam into "Kennedy's war".


40 posted on 06/23/2004 11:36:50 PM PDT by tkathy (nihilism: absolute destructiveness toward the world at large and oneself)
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To: illuminadi

Ok, I had to register again to make my point. Minutes after I posted this article, I posted an Ann Coulter article on a left-wing website and I must say the responses were amazingly similar: A lot of name-calling and a few constructive arguments. I even got called a "traitor" over there as well. The biggest difference is that I didn't get banned over there and albeit some of the retorts were angry and crass, none were quite as hateful and violent as some over here.
So is the Hitler/Bush comparison fair? I don't know but I'm seeing and hearing it more and more from some very influential people. They are 'opinions' though, with as much credibilty to a lot of people as the opinions of Limbaugh and/or Al Franken.
I don't consider myself a liberal or a democrat. I am a pacifist. I'm a pacifist who would vote for John McCain because I believe he is a strong leader. However, he's not running for President and it's the swing voters that will make or break Bush. There are dozens of influencial folks coming out of the woodwork who are making a stand against this administration (both republican and democrat). I wonder how long it will be before they stop getting dismissed as 'has beens' and 'disgruntled ex-employees'.
If anything, this election will bring out people who normally don't vote and hopefully they will vote for the good of the country and not down party lines. Well, I hope my selfish little experiment didn't offend anyone too much. At least, I've proven to myself that the two party system is archaic, antiquated, and does more harm than good. I'm looking forward to a day when people can cast their votes based on the merits of the candidate and not tribalism.

P.S. Illuminadi? Illuminati was taken. Have a nice day.


45 posted on 06/24/2004 7:26:38 AM PDT by noomie
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To: illuminadi

hateriot


48 posted on 06/24/2004 7:43:12 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Virtue is learned at a mother's knee...and vices at other joints.)
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To: Arrowhead1952; cyborg

ping


49 posted on 06/24/2004 7:44:24 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: illuminadi

It's "IlluminaTi" with a "T" you semi-literate half chewed blob of moose fat!


56 posted on 06/24/2004 8:09:30 AM PDT by Darksheare (Never play croquet with a coquette.)
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"America would be much better off with a president who, like John F. Kennedy, is honest enough to admit mistakes and secure enough to change his mind."
JF Kennedy denied his multiple infidelities to his wife, flip flopped on taking down Castro, and got himself shot.
He was also an indecisive weakling who wouldn't decide on policy until his focus grup decided it was a good idea.
John Kerry, 'change' his mind?
Try outright lies and treason.
The man is a weakling and a traitor.
America does NOT want that as a president.


57 posted on 06/24/2004 8:20:07 AM PDT by Darksheare (Never play croquet with a coquette.)
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Why didn't you ping me!?

:~)

61 posted on 06/24/2004 10:47:25 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: illuminadi
Got ZOT?
62 posted on 06/24/2004 10:57:37 AM PDT by DocRock
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Can this model be useful to understand how contemporary America is engaged in a criminally unjust war...

Screeeeeech!

Stopped reading right there.

Look. This whole Bush = Hitler thing just ain't makin' it, but keep trying, okay?

And learn to spell illuminati...improperly spelling your short-lived screen name really makes you look like a dumbass.

Your post confirms it.

66 posted on 06/24/2004 12:50:40 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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