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Live babies being born after abortions
UK Evening Standard ^ | 6/22/04 | Rebecca Smith

Posted on 06/22/2004 5:45:15 PM PDT by wagglebee

Leading doctors today called for a major overhaul to avoid babies being born alive after abortions.

Pregnancy expert Professor Stuart Campbell has demanded rules should be tightened after it was revealed that at least nine babies are known to have survived terminations in recent years.

He said injections that were supposed to end their lives in the womb failed to do so - and he called for stricter regulations to be enforced on the methods of abortion.

Professor Campbell said that all abortions carried out after 18 weeks of pregnancy should include an injection, followed by drugs, to induce labour and a stillborn child.

Some consultants only give the injection in abortions after 22 weeks. Others, he claims, do not use it at all.

Professor Campbell, who worked as an obstetrician at St George's Hospital-Tooting, and pioneered 4D scanning of babies in the womb at the Create Health Centre for Reproduction and Advanced Technology in London, said: "It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth.

"If after 18 weeks you just induce labour (without an injection first) a large number would be born with a heartbeat and most of them will survive with a heartbeat and will make movements.

"Certainly from 18 weeks they should inject the heart to stop it from beating, but not everyone does this. Guidance should be given by the Royal College.

"There are cases where the injection does not work but this is very rare."

One baby with Down's Syndrome was to be aborted at a hospital in the home counties but lived. It was transferred to St George's Hospital, where it received neonatal intensive care and survived. It is believed to have been adopted.

Next week a motion is being tabled at the British Medical Association conference that babies should be entitled to all the intensive care that babies born prematurely receive. Consultant obstetrician-Jim Thornton said in the past babies were born alive after abortion more regularly but "people didn't make a fuss and pretended not to realise the baby was born alive".

He said that if a baby were to be born alive and viable then it must be given medical help but there was a "grey area" where babies born in this manner at 22 or 23 weeks were on the cusp of being able to survive. Only 17 per cent of babies born normally at 23 weeks survive.

Professor Thornton, of City Hospital, Nottingham, said: "Once it is born, you can't kill the baby but the law doesn't say anything about to what degree you resuscitate it.

"The way it is dealt with is by sensible doctors and sensible nurses keeping it under their hat and allowing the baby to pass away peacefully."

Professor Campbell does not believe that a baby born in this way should be kept alive at all costs.

"What paediatricians do is spend resources keeping a baby that is going to die, alive. It is absolute nonsense. It does show that is up to us (obstetricians) to make sure the baby is not moving."

Guidance issued by the Royal College of Obstetrics and Gynaecologists states that a legal abortion must not be allowed to result in a live birth.

But Professor Campbell says it does not make clear at what stage it is necessary to stop the heartbeat before abortion.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionismurder; attrocity; birth; childbirth; denyassistance; england; euthenasia; evil; holocaust; infanticide; liveabortion; murder; notjusttissue; sick; stopabeatingheart; uk; ukabortion
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This is so cruel and inhumane. That any doctor would want to kill a beautiful infant is beyond me.
1 posted on 06/22/2004 5:45:15 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee; NRA2BFree

Barbaric


2 posted on 06/22/2004 5:46:40 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Amen. The doctors should test the injections on themselves first to make sure the stuff works properly.
3 posted on 06/22/2004 5:47:49 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: wagglebee

That any doctor would want to kill a beautiful infant is beyond me.



Very simple $$$$$$$$


4 posted on 06/22/2004 5:49:16 PM PDT by WKB (3!~ What we need is more "Christianity in politics" and less "Politics in Christianity")
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It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth.

Yes, it is truly unfair. I mean, the parents and the medical professionals might feel bad or something. Better to stamp the life out of the kid before he comes out of the womb.

5 posted on 06/22/2004 5:49:32 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: wagglebee
Evil. It is evil.
6 posted on 06/22/2004 5:49:36 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Texas Eagle

Too bad these "doctors" weren't aborted. No, even they don't deserve such a fate until they begin these procedures. Is it too late?


7 posted on 06/22/2004 5:53:04 PM PDT by realpatriot (This tagline intentionally left blank, so quit reading it)
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"What paediatricians do is spend resources keeping a baby that is going to die, alive. It is absolute nonsense. It does show that is up to us (obstetricians) to make sure the baby is not moving."

Translation: "As a doctor, it is my job to kill children. Anyone who expects me to try to keep a child alive must be smoking crack."

8 posted on 06/22/2004 5:53:40 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
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To: WKB

I don't buy the money angle at all. Even mediocre doctors have no problem making money (without the risk of being shot at or bombed). These monsters have some perverse agenda that goes beyond money.


9 posted on 06/22/2004 5:54:09 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: madprof98

That quote really takes the cake. SICK.


10 posted on 06/22/2004 5:55:12 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth

God no, we wouldn't want them to feel bad or anything. I mean, it's not like they should have to worry about what the baby is feeling while it's being "terminated" by a method that usually leads to 20 years of appeals by convicted murderers alleging that it's cruel and unusual punishment.

Heavens no, we wouldn't want the live adults to have to confront such vexing questions.

11 posted on 06/22/2004 5:55:25 PM PDT by Regulator (Totally Beyond Disgusting)
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To: wagglebee

The babies are human...these doctors are SUB-human.


12 posted on 06/22/2004 5:55:32 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: wagglebee
HELLO!!!

Does anyone else see the lunacy here?? Ain't killing 'em good enough..we must have more effective means. Ja Volt!

13 posted on 06/22/2004 5:56:13 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought."-Pope JPII)
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Professor Thornton, of City Hospital, Nottingham, said: "Once it is born, you can't kill the baby but the law doesn't say anything about to what degree you resuscitate it.

"The way it is dealt with is by sensible doctors and sensible nurses keeping it under their hat and allowing the baby to pass away peacefully."

Professor Campbell does not believe that a baby born in this way should be kept alive at all costs.

"What paediatricians do is spend resources keeping a baby that is going to die, alive. It is absolute nonsense. It does show that is up to us (obstetricians) to make sure the baby is not moving."

This is an OB/Gyn (they make plenty of money), his motive is to murder babies. And I will never understand the level of human depravity that will make somebody say this.

14 posted on 06/22/2004 5:57:55 PM PDT by wagglebee
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Once it is born, you can't kill the baby but the law doesn't say anything about to what degree you resuscitate it

So, they need a law to tell them to help someone stay alive?

Arrest every one of these SOBs and try them for murder.

15 posted on 06/22/2004 5:59:24 PM PDT by Regulator (This is even MORE disgusting!!)
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It's truly beyond words to describe. And the discussion in the article is just casual for these 'experts' on how to kill the children more effectively to insure they are truly dead. It's 'unfair' that kids would be somehow avoid being killed.


16 posted on 06/22/2004 6:03:18 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: wagglebee
Planned Parenthood's total income for 2002-2003 was $766.6 million. 1/3 of it from the U.S. tax taypayers. That's a big chunk of change.

Isn't it funny that when the left moans about evil rich corporations, they never mention the one that is truly evil?
17 posted on 06/22/2004 6:15:20 PM PDT by lizma
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He said injections that were supposed to end their lives in the womb failed to do so...

The West's very own version of the 'Religion of Pieces'. We have nothing over the be-headers, do we?

On the face of it this can't really be true anyway - we have been told time and time again that there is nothing 'alive' in the womb to kill. Whatever it is that is being 'born', it can't be alive. Sick.

God help us all. God give the Church back Her spine and Her voice.

a_r

18 posted on 06/22/2004 6:17:14 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Mr. Mojo

They are delivery room terrorists! The worst of the worst as terrorists go. There is no difference in the terrorists who killed and mutilated the Americans in Fallujah, than the terrorists who shred babies as they suction them out of the womb and then pitch their little body parts in a trash can. ANYONE who can kill a baby is pure evil.


19 posted on 06/22/2004 6:23:59 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce.)
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Professor Thornton, of City Hospital, Nottingham, said: "Once it is born, you can't kill the baby but the law doesn't say anything about to what degree you resuscitate it.

I cannot even imagine that these are the words of someone in a civilized society.

20 posted on 06/22/2004 6:24:12 PM PDT by Dolphy
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