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Bet you won't see this article in many papers across our country. Some hard truths here.
1 posted on 06/20/2004 3:44:23 AM PDT by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg

sedition at the very least....isn't this a Rosenberg anniversary?Maybe we need to be hard headed again


2 posted on 06/20/2004 3:50:19 AM PDT by jnarcus
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"Members of Congress can declare the punishment. What say they?"

I think we all know the answer.

Just ask these Congress critters, and add the Kerry, and Kennedy types that aren't on this list.

4 posted on 06/20/2004 3:59:12 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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Let us not forget a fat scroungy looking bastid who made a movie full of lies that is being hailed by our enemies and himself praised for sedition. Michael Moore.


5 posted on 06/20/2004 4:02:39 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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I've been telling everyone who would listen that the only reason we won WWII was because of censorship. If the staggering number of casualties and film of them had come back to the States, the outcry to bring our guys home would have been deafening. The primary reason we lost in Vietnam was the daily barrage of deaths and film of them.

Carolyn

6 posted on 06/20/2004 4:05:31 AM PDT by CDHart
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these types of articles should be "filtered through a government agency." During war, this shouldn't be called censorship. It should be called cooperation in the war effort, as the government enjoyed in World War II.

Why not call it censorship?

That's what it was called in WWII, from December 19, 1941 until August 15, 1945.

Conducted by the Federal Office of Censorship, FYI.

7 posted on 06/20/2004 4:12:02 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Elkiejg
These words are carefully chosen and they are true:
"a case can be made against those who work in the media and deliberately undermine the current Republican administration's war on terror while purposely pushing their own agenda."
And so are these:
"most mainstream media lean left and therefore slant their reporting to benefit liberal politicians."
The so-called "journalists" of the "mainstream newsmedia" seek to manipulate public opinion by manipulating the news--through selective reporting, emphasis, and outright distortion.

Their agenda is to remove President Bush and the Republican Party from office and replace them with Democrats. From their point of view, this is their duty. What they do not realize--or more likely refuse to see--is that it is a dangerous manifestation of dangerous hubris that dangerously misleads the public.

The source of their hubris is arrogance, intellectual and moral laziness, a disinclination to avoid consensus reality (groupthink) and an inclination to fashion, a misguided commitment to "internationalism" and "Liberalism", and a blinding hatred for President Bush.

Hubris preceeds a fall. Let's hope they don't bring us all down with themselves.

8 posted on 06/20/2004 4:15:13 AM PDT by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and greatgrandparents were all Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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Thanks for posting this article. I sent an e-mail to the Washington Times thanking them for printing it, and also one to the Illinois GOP to tell Nancy Salvato what a great job she did.

Carolyn

10 posted on 06/20/2004 4:18:33 AM PDT by CDHart
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Wasnt there something on the news the other night about the WH being outraged that some reporter had revealed the exact location of the Vice President's bunker?


11 posted on 06/20/2004 4:20:20 AM PDT by hershey
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Well stated - good examples.


13 posted on 06/20/2004 4:22:07 AM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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"The tongue has no bones, but it can break bones" --Old Sicilian Proverb


14 posted on 06/20/2004 4:22:18 AM PDT by RunningJoke
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ping


17 posted on 06/20/2004 4:29:33 AM PDT by arbee4bush
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When the laws of our Constitution are not upheld, it's only a matter of time, before our Constitution and our Country, no longer exist.

That time is very close.


18 posted on 06/20/2004 4:42:04 AM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: Elkiejg

Great post!


19 posted on 06/20/2004 4:45:03 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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Nancy Salvato and the Washington Times have got it!

Will enough American citizens get it before the election?

We had best hope so and work our butts off to ensure that they do!


20 posted on 06/20/2004 4:51:25 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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Mr. Kerry gave a press conference advocating the North Vietnamese peace plan in which The U.S. "would have had to pay reparations and agree that we essentially lost the war." He became remains a spokesman for the Communist Party even today

Corrected posting

21 posted on 06/20/2004 4:52:13 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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I agree


24 posted on 06/20/2004 5:39:37 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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We are truly in a war on terrorism. Yet a Fifth column, at the very least, slanders our leaders. (I begin to understand the titles of Ann Coulter's books; "Slander," "Treason") . . .
Bit slow, aren't we?
The media continue to spin to the public that we are losing the war. This is helping convince the mainstream that by going to Iraq we became enveloped in a quagmire, which in turn, undermines public confidence and support for our efforts and our current president. The media promote their agenda and that of the terrorists to encourage the election of the "Not Bush" candidate while putting our country at greater risk for the success of terrorism.
The fundamental truth of the First Amendment is that journalists are fully entitled to push their own agendas. Note the plural, "agendas." Indeed Hamilton and Jefferson sponsored newspapers in which to conduct their partisan battles against each other.

The scandal is not that journalists participate in politics, the scandal is that we-the-people sucker for the con that journalism is something other than politics. We imbibed it with our mothers' milk, but the conceit that journalists are, or should be, objective is based solely on the propaganda power of America's PR Establishment.

And journalism can be spoken of as a single entity - indeed, as The Establishment - precisely because journalists have in America formed a well-defined cabal around the notion that competition among them does not extend to questions of what is important.

That cabal coheres because it defines "What is important" in terms of the self-interest of its membership. That is, the journalistic establishment conflates "what is important" with "what will sell newspapers." And it coheres in the principle that "Never argue with someone who buys ink by the carload" applies to people who indeed buy ink by the carload themselves. It is the principle of avoiding flame wars - avoiding bad PR.

Since what sells newspapers best is what people are afraid not to read, "What is important" is what makes the public feel insecure. Winston Churchill once said, "Democracy is like a raft. It won't sink, but your feet are always wet." The PR Establishment of journalism is not interested in the ineluctable flotation of the raft but only in the wetness of the feet of its passengers.

The con of the journalism establishment is that journalism is objective; the the establishment excludes anyone who breaks its consensus with a PR campaign to the effect that the miscreant is "not objective, not a journalist."

But the effect of claiming objectivity is to claim wisdom. If you start from the premise that you are wise, then the truth of any proposition follows directly from the fact that you have stated that it is true. That saves a great deal of the difficult work known as, "thinking."

But openly making such a nakedly circular argument would convince very few people, and anyone who seriously considers the case must realize that it is not the self-identified "objective" person but the person who admits the existence of an identifiable perspective in his own thinking whose speech and writing is least likely to be misleading. The term "philosophy" was coined precisely to distinguish the person who pursued wisdom from the "sophist" who merely claimed wisdom.

Treason has become so acceptable the Democratic candidate for president may be said to have committed it back in 1970 when he conducted a meeting with North Vietnamese communists. Laws forbid private citizens from negotiating with foreign powers.
But then, sophistry allows you to prove anything. Why then should journalism have any difficulty promoting the traitor as the patriot?
Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate

25 posted on 06/20/2004 5:53:07 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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This is a great post. Thanks for it. This message needs to get out and people need to understand it.


26 posted on 06/20/2004 5:57:28 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270)
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The parasitic media dogs are well beyond reporting. They have no right to interfere with military operations and troop morale (hey - we kicked Geraldo out of Iraq, and nothing horrible happened as a result).

Since the NYT/etc. isn't interested in "co-operation", censorship is the only alternative unless masses of us decline to buy their stinking papers. Unfortunately, in our squishy society, neither is likely to happen.


27 posted on 06/20/2004 6:15:05 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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We are truly in a war ........

Those who don't believe in war deny there is a war. The issue of war or no war was settled in the 70's.... there shall be no more war, thus today there is no war. The belief in no-war trumps the belief in war. All the current activity involving the military is misguided political activity, it is not war. The belief in no-war is part of the utopian religon of liberalism. Religous fanatics will not accetpt reason nor will they accept any other view.

The left is truly a propblem. Refusing to defend against deadly attack and taking an active role to discredit or bring harm to those who do places the nation in a very bad situation.


28 posted on 06/20/2004 6:28:08 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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