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Britain Signs Up To New Union Of Europe
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 6/19/2004 | George Jones and Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 06/18/2004 9:24:07 PM PDT by monkapotamus

Britain signs up to new union of Europe

By George Jones and Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels
(Filed: 19/06/2004)

European leaders signed the EU's first constitution last night after an acrimonious summit exposed deep divisions between Britain, France and Germany over the future of Europe.

The historic deal was concluded after two years of wrangling, culminating in a power struggle between Tony Blair and Jacques Chirac, the French president.


Gerhard Schröder and Tony Blair celebrate the historic deal

It sealed the union of 25 countries and 450 million citizens, extending across the old Iron Curtain into former communist eastern Europe.

Mr Blair, weary but relieved, said after 12 hours of negotiations in Brussels that a "new Europe" of strong, proud nation states that co-operated was taking shape. It was one in which Britain could feel at home.

The Prime Minister said he had won all his key demands and retained the right of veto on tax, foreign policy, social security and the rebate from the EU budget. The constitution was a "great success for Britain and a success for Europe".

He said: "I don't think there is a consensus in Europe for some federal superstate. That has gone as an idea."

He was immediately contradicted by Mr Chirac who has been pressing for closer European integration and who had earlier clashed sharply with him.

Mr Blair rebuked Mr Chirac and Gerhard Schröder, the German chancellor, for treating the EU as if it were their exclusive inner circle. His spokesman said: "There are no first class and second class citizens. We are all equal members of the European community."

Mr Chirac said he was very happy with the result. It would create "a federation of states but also of peoples". It would lead to "very extensive" advances in majority voting, especially in justice and home affairs and opened the way for a European prosecutor.

While it was regrettable that Britain had blocked majority voting on tax, "it would happen anyway". Britain would not be able to stop core groups of countries pressing ahead with integration on their own.

The summit leaders will see the accord on the constitution as a victory after a wave of public apathy and Euroscepticism in last week's European Parliament elections.

But the threat of rejection by any one of the member states due to hold a referendum on the treaty could still sink it. Mr Blair confirmed that Britain would hold a referendum by the end of 2006 but refused to be drawn on timing.

He acknowledged, after last week's surprise gains for the UK Independence Party, which wants to pull out of the EU, that he had a lot of persuading to do. He also admitted that he should have conceded the demand for a referendum earlier.

Relief over the deal was tempered by a failure to agree on a new president for the European Union's executive. The Irish EU presidency postponed the decision and Guy Verhofstadt, the Belgian prime minister, who had been the front-runner, withdrew from the race.

France and Germany had pushed for him to be given the EU's leading job. But his nomination was blocked by a British-led group of countries which said he was an arch-federalist and anti-American.

The leaders gave a standing ovation to Bertie Ahern, the Irish prime minister. He resurrected negotiations that collapsed last December and steered them to success through Dublin's six-month presidency of the EU.

Mr Blair made clear that Mr Chirac and Mr Schröder, - whose alliance has been regarded as the motor of the EU, could no longer treat Europe as their private club.

"We are operating in a Europe of 25, not six or two or one," his spokesman said.

While Mr Blair claimed success in securing his red lines safeguards on tax, social security, foreign affairs and the budget rebate, agreement on the constitution will plunge him into a domestic battle.

The referendum will be the first time the nation has voted on membership of Europe since its decision in 1975 to stay in the Common Market.

The breakthrough on the constitution was achieved despite the summit being overshadowed by a bitter dispute over a successor to Romano Prodi, who steps down as the president of the European Commission in November.

As the summit ended and the leaders went home, Dick Roche, the Irish Europe minister, said: "The issue of the presidency will be left over for another day."

Mr Blair had led a successful move to block France and Germany's favourite for the EU's leading job: Mr Verhofstadt, an arch-federalist and fierce critic of the Iraq war.

That was after Mr Chirac had effectively vetoed the appointment of Chris Patten, the former Tory chairman.

The constitution introduces more majority voting, reducing the use of national vetoes; gives national parliaments more say before EU legislation is enacted; and creates a supreme court, a president of the European Council and a foreign minister.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: chirac; constitution; euconstitution; europeanunion; gerhardschrder; guyverhofstadt; tonyblair
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1 posted on 06/18/2004 9:24:09 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus

Goodbye English Rose...hello New World Order.


2 posted on 06/18/2004 9:36:35 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: monkapotamus

Tony Wins, But down the road the EU is sunk and we REALLY win..Read RR take, and that was 10+ years ago...Go Tony...


3 posted on 06/18/2004 9:36:57 PM PDT by ChEng
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To: monkapotamus

Tony, you just screwed your country to hell.


4 posted on 06/18/2004 9:38:45 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod ('I went to Vietnam, yada yada yada, I want to be President...")
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Well, shades of T. S. Eliot...believe I'll have another drink...let's make this one a toast: to the memory of the Light Brigade..
5 posted on 06/18/2004 9:39:46 PM PDT by MrNatural (..".You want the truth?!"...)
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To: monkapotamus

Britain was always America's mole in the EU.


6 posted on 06/18/2004 9:40:32 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: MrNatural

Cheers!


7 posted on 06/18/2004 9:45:17 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Yes but he might be EU president one day !

Full details have yet to emerge but I suspect it's not good news for those who value national sovereignty.


8 posted on 06/18/2004 9:49:25 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: monkapotamus
It sealed the union of 25 countries and 450 million citizens, extending across the old Iron Curtain into former communist eastern Europe.

450 million socialists and communists trying to share the common wealth of 25 different countries, this could be our next adversary. How long before a dictator assumes control.

Of course there may be one in place already.

9 posted on 06/18/2004 10:03:13 PM PDT by X-FID ( The roaming gnome must die!)
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To: X-FID

So now it's official. Britain is a charter member of the new Soviet Union. Goodbye Britain - once again it becomes apparent why we left you in the first place. Enjoy your eternity in the world's newest Hell of your own creation. I'll bet Churchill's tomb is smoking right about now.

And don't come crying to us when you finally realize just how screwed you really are. Too late. We won't be shedding any more blood for Europe unless it's when we end up kicking your spineless asses back to the Bronze Age.

Drop your arms embargo to China as your new French and German masters desire, and it'll be the last straw.


10 posted on 06/18/2004 10:13:05 PM PDT by datura (Battlefield justice is what our enemies deserve. If you win, you live. If you lose, you die.)
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To: datura

Not just yet - this signature will go to referendum. The British people are very queasy about this thing, and I think are leaning in favor of rejection.


11 posted on 06/18/2004 10:15:46 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: datura

Ironic, India is adapting Western Ideals, while Britan is abandoing them.

Is this Bizzaro World?.


12 posted on 06/18/2004 11:43:50 PM PDT by John Will
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To: July 4th

Is this true of all nations or just England?


13 posted on 06/19/2004 12:07:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Exactly.
Kiss any effective concept of NATO we have left goodbye.
I don't think Europeans are actually looking at this very closely. Seems like they are running towards being the new U.S.S.R.
A govt. structure with the ability to override national sovereignty on many governing issues is not something I think is wise to be heading into.
Look at what has happened in their process to date. You got Belg, Germ, and France running around claiming to have a vote that is more powerful and overriding than the other smaller and newer europe countries. Everybody paying taxes to a govt. that as individuals...they don't really have any way to hold them accoutable or restrained. And some countries were not being given a real voice during the process, even though they were shelling out money. With in the past year they actually had a German rep. bring up the idea that they should have an EU military and smaller countries would have no need for defense forces (red flag shoots up there!). Not to mention that suggested that the actual forces could be supplied from France...and Germany.
That got blasted and shot down pretty quickly.
And underneath all of this....you have Germany who has been really building up, at break neck speed, in the military arena. History has shown that, every time Germany has done this, the end result and agenda has not been good. Not to mention the issue about Socialists really getting in the drivers seat there again.
We are only kidding ourselves if we don't think we need to keep an eye on this.


14 posted on 06/19/2004 12:14:26 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: monkapotamus

So Britain got rolled?


15 posted on 06/19/2004 1:36:56 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: monkapotamus
To quote Sir Winston Churchill: "This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

The real battle now begins. This will now have to be ratified by Parliament, quite possibly after the next general election, in which case Blair may be facing a vastly reduced majority, and a hostile media (print media, the B.B.C. will be giving its loyal support to the European Project). Then it will be put to the people in a referendum, where the country will have the opportunity (if you will excuse the language) to defecate on it from a great height.

My personal take on this is that Tony Blair has just lost his job, or rather he has just staked his job on the proposition that he can convined the British public (who are becomming increasingly Euro-sceptic, and who realise that he is a slimy toad who finds it impossible to tell the truth) to vote for this things in a referendum.

Of course, several things could cause this entire project to collapse. If Blair is replaced by Gordon Brown there is a small chance that this will be dumped; if Blair looses the next election, it is certain that it will be dumped (the Tories are committed to renegotiating treaties already signed); if another major country, or a couple of smaller one's reject this, the whole thing could quickly become a dead-duck.

See also the other Telegraph articles on this.

Leading Article "Blair's Blunder" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/06/19/dl1901.xml

Daggers drawn over the dinner table http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/06/19/weu119.xml

The battle in Brussels is over, now the fight at home begins http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/06/19/weu219.xml

EU has had no real mandate for this extraordinary leap forward http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/06/19/weu319.xml
16 posted on 06/19/2004 4:19:10 AM PDT by tjwmason (A voice from Merry England.)
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To: ChEng
Tony Wins, But down the road the EU is sunk and we REALLY win..Read RR take, and that was 10+ years ago...Go Tony...

Tony wins?

Except in so far as Blair is a committed Europhiliac he has lost utterly.

I agree with your close. Go Tony. Go out of office as soon as possible. Having signed that treaty he should have gone straight to the Queen and resigned for selling out this ancient country to foreign domination.
17 posted on 06/19/2004 4:22:10 AM PDT by tjwmason (A voice from Merry England.)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Kiss any effective concept of NATO we have left goodbye.

NATO was effectively neutered when Clinton allowed the French and Germans to dictate Balkan policy and take advantage of the dismemberment of the former Yugoslavia.

Sometimes I think our troops in Europe are no longer defenders but just a good source of revenue for the Germans.

18 posted on 06/19/2004 4:45:23 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: ArmyBratproud
And underneath all of this....you have Germany who has been really building up, at break neck speed, in the military arena. History has shown that, every time Germany has done this, the end result and agenda has not been good.

What planet are you on? The german defense budget has been hovering stable at about 24 billion euros annualy for years. Nothing compared to 400 billion dollars in the US.

19 posted on 06/19/2004 5:37:31 AM PDT by sumocide
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you don't want to bet me on this...

The ramp up of rotary wing aircraft. an increased buy in in modern weapons technology.


20 posted on 06/19/2004 10:47:43 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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